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Not convincing reasons. We can assume from their question they are happy to use their phone for most if not all of what you list.

acdha 9y ago
There’s a difference between capable and convenient. The watch is a great way to have less disruption for many of those tasks. One example: I never use siri on my phone - it’s too slow and flaky and typing is so much faster. I use Siri on my watch all the time because they apparently have a better QA team and I don’t need two hands to use it which is really good on my bike or as a new parent, especially now that our son is jealous of attention going to a phone.
- exodust 9y ago
  Your son's jealously is a good point. It extends to adults too... it's rude when friends and family stare at their phones too much. Some people use their phones more efficiently than others by combining tasks in the one session. More info can be read, more browsed on the large screen. On the other hand, some people use their phones in part to avoid social awkwardness, or fill in otherwise restful moments. This is significant because it's behaviour many wouldn't want to give up, even if we should. It raises the question of how connected to things we ought to be, a watch means you are more "jacked in" permanently. I'm not sure I want that. When I put my phone away in my bag, I'm putting the internet away, I've "disconnected". A watch feels like it's always there ready to pounce.
  - acdha 9y ago
    The only areas where I see replacing a phone are fitness & NFC payments. Otherwise it’s usually an augment: check your notifications / calendar to see if you need to pull out your phone. This is especially big for anyone who doesn’t commonly wear pockets large enough to hold phones & get them out quickly.
ubermonkey 9y ago
You seem extremely invested in the notion that the Watch is silly and bad, so it's not clear why anyone would try to convince you otherwise.
- exodust 9y ago
  Pointless and over-sensitive remark. No idea why you assert I'm "extremely invested in silly and bad". Please don't put words in my mouth. Just for you, here's an angle that you'll see as "silly and bad"... The name "Apple Watch" is a misnomer. It's not a "watch" in the sense of its primary function as a timepiece. If you insist it is a timepiece, then given the short battery life, it's the worst timepiece since the invention of the watch. It's a device that does a few different things that happens to be strapped to your wrist. I find it curious that the Apple engineer and another person in this thread has listed as their number one use of the Apple Watch "telling the time (duh)"... why add "duh"? If you use other apps primarily, the time may not be visible, or only in tiny digits, or even a blank screen. "Duh" is not needed because telling the time seems to be something the Apple Watch does only under certain circumstances like "have you recharged" or "is your wrist angled the correct way".
  - ubermonkey 9y ago
    I have no idea why I'm replying to you, because as I noted I don't really think you're interested in anything except confirming your bias, but: People are listing "telling the time (duh)" because it's OBVIOUSLY a watch. I guess I could assemble a face that doesn't include the time, but I certainly haven't wanted to. Obviously I consult it for the time several times a day. Obviously, that's the primary role of a wristwatch. I suspect people here, like myself, have omitted "telling the time" when outlining reasons the Apple Watch is useful are doing so because, duh, it's a watch. It tells time. Incidentally, there remain no small number of manual-wind watches in use that require daily winding. Are they also examples of the worst watches ever made?
    - exodust 9y ago
      > as I noted I don't really think you're interested in anything except confirming your bias Stop pretending you know what motivates my contributions, that's rude. Bias? We're talking about a tech product, not immigration policy. I am not loyal to any brand, I own examples of most brands and will praise or criticise as needed, as anyone should. Brand loyalty is where you'll find bias, so perhaps take a look in the mirror. "Duh" is a silly word to use on any occasion. When used as part of an answer to a question, you risk giving the impression the questioner has asked a stupid question. "Duh" does not mean "obviously". If you're standing or sitting with arms folded then look down at the time, you may see a blank screen, therefore the primary role of your wristwatch is inferior to even those watches that require daily winding. And no, I would not describe a watch that requires daily winding as a great watch. I look forward to vastly improved battery life in smart watches and more hybrid-mechanical or traditional digital watch design so that the watch part is not an "app". It doesn't seem like you can discuss the product without going after the person, so hopefully this interaction is at an end.

acdha 9y ago

There’s a difference between capable and convenient. The watch is a great way to have less disruption for many of those tasks. One example: I never use siri on my phone - it’s too slow and flaky and typing is so much faster. I use Siri on my watch all the time because they apparently have a better QA team and I don’t need two hands to use it which is really good on my bike or as a new parent, especially now that our son is jealous of attention going to a phone.

exodust 9y ago
Your son's jealously is a good point. It extends to adults too... it's rude when friends and family stare at their phones too much. Some people use their phones more efficiently than others by combining tasks in the one session. More info can be read, more browsed on the large screen. On the other hand, some people use their phones in part to avoid social awkwardness, or fill in otherwise restful moments. This is significant because it's behaviour many wouldn't want to give up, even if we should. It raises the question of how connected to things we ought to be, a watch means you are more "jacked in" permanently. I'm not sure I want that. When I put my phone away in my bag, I'm putting the internet away, I've "disconnected". A watch feels like it's always there ready to pounce.
- acdha 9y ago
  The only areas where I see replacing a phone are fitness & NFC payments. Otherwise it’s usually an augment: check your notifications / calendar to see if you need to pull out your phone. This is especially big for anyone who doesn’t commonly wear pockets large enough to hold phones & get them out quickly.

ubermonkey 9y ago

You seem extremely invested in the notion that the Watch is silly and bad, so it's not clear why anyone would try to convince you otherwise.

exodust 9y ago
Pointless and over-sensitive remark. No idea why you assert I'm "extremely invested in silly and bad". Please don't put words in my mouth. Just for you, here's an angle that you'll see as "silly and bad"... The name "Apple Watch" is a misnomer. It's not a "watch" in the sense of its primary function as a timepiece. If you insist it is a timepiece, then given the short battery life, it's the worst timepiece since the invention of the watch. It's a device that does a few different things that happens to be strapped to your wrist. I find it curious that the Apple engineer and another person in this thread has listed as their number one use of the Apple Watch "telling the time (duh)"... why add "duh"? If you use other apps primarily, the time may not be visible, or only in tiny digits, or even a blank screen. "Duh" is not needed because telling the time seems to be something the Apple Watch does only under certain circumstances like "have you recharged" or "is your wrist angled the correct way".
- ubermonkey 9y ago
  I have no idea why I'm replying to you, because as I noted I don't really think you're interested in anything except confirming your bias, but: People are listing "telling the time (duh)" because it's OBVIOUSLY a watch. I guess I could assemble a face that doesn't include the time, but I certainly haven't wanted to. Obviously I consult it for the time several times a day. Obviously, that's the primary role of a wristwatch. I suspect people here, like myself, have omitted "telling the time" when outlining reasons the Apple Watch is useful are doing so because, duh, it's a watch. It tells time. Incidentally, there remain no small number of manual-wind watches in use that require daily winding. Are they also examples of the worst watches ever made?
  - exodust 9y ago
    > as I noted I don't really think you're interested in anything except confirming your bias Stop pretending you know what motivates my contributions, that's rude. Bias? We're talking about a tech product, not immigration policy. I am not loyal to any brand, I own examples of most brands and will praise or criticise as needed, as anyone should. Brand loyalty is where you'll find bias, so perhaps take a look in the mirror. "Duh" is a silly word to use on any occasion. When used as part of an answer to a question, you risk giving the impression the questioner has asked a stupid question. "Duh" does not mean "obviously". If you're standing or sitting with arms folded then look down at the time, you may see a blank screen, therefore the primary role of your wristwatch is inferior to even those watches that require daily winding. And no, I would not describe a watch that requires daily winding as a great watch. I look forward to vastly improved battery life in smart watches and more hybrid-mechanical or traditional digital watch design so that the watch part is not an "app". It doesn't seem like you can discuss the product without going after the person, so hopefully this interaction is at an end.