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I'll be frank, this whole situation seems really fishy... I don't think Russia had anything to do with this. Not with the elections and world cup within months.

I'll be frank, this whole situation seems really fishy... I don't think Russia had anything to do with this. Not with the elections and world cup within months. It makes zero sense whatsoever. But I also don't feel sorry for them because their past shady and thuggish behavior makes it easy for them to be framed for such acts.

fenk85 9y ago
You know what makes zero sense? shooting passenger airplanes out of the sky, but here we are...
- myth_drannon 9y ago
  Just adding explanation to the cryptic comment: Downing of Iran Air Flight 655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
  - fenk85 9y ago
    Erm no more like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
  - proaralyst 9y ago
    I think the parent may have been referring to the Malaysian Airlines passenger jet shot down over Ukraine with a Russian anti-air missile system.
ictoan 9y ago
What is it that makes this fishy to you? Why do you think Russia is not responsible? Who else would've done this? Did someone just magically have a rare nerve agent made in Russia, brought it to UK and sprayed it on an ex-Russian spy? Gosh, what a freak accident! Or if someone did it on purpose then what is his intention? Why would someone go out of his way to frame Russia? What is the goal? Purpose? Or maybe... just maybe... it is just Russia being Russia and doing shady Soviet style operations.
- hugh4life 9y ago
  Mossad could easily be as responsible and they have motive with Syria.
  - ictoan 9y ago
    How does Mossad have the facilities and knowledge to produce Novichok? It's not something you can order from Amazon.
    - hugh4life 9y ago
      Vil Mirzayanov(who lives in the US) apparently wrote the forumula for Novichok in a book available on Amazon. https://twitter.com/mashant/status/973930996918865920 https://twitter.com/mashant/status/973930996918865920 "It's the Russians... unless it's anybody else who got the formula from my book (Kindle edition is only $8 on Amazon), Novichok whistle-blower Mirzayanov tells AFP" "The only other possibility, he said, would be that someone used the formulas in his book to make such a weapon." (I personally find it a bit difficult to believe they would actually put the formula for dangerous nerve agent in a book but that's what's reported)
      - scottmf 9y ago
        >I personally find it a bit difficult to believe Quite the skeptic aren’t you.
      - gnode 9y ago
        > I personally find it a bit difficult to believe they would actually put the formula for dangerous nerve agent in a book As the author explained, knowing what the chemical is doesn't help you much with making it, and such information was already available for Sarin and others. Producing these chemicals is a difficult engineering challenge, and incredibly dangerous. Even in the professional labs, people died trying to produce them.
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fenk85 9y ago

You know what makes zero sense? shooting passenger airplanes out of the sky, but here we are...

myth_drannon 9y ago
Just adding explanation to the cryptic comment: Downing of Iran Air Flight 655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
- fenk85 9y ago
  Erm no more like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
- proaralyst 9y ago
  I think the parent may have been referring to the Malaysian Airlines passenger jet shot down over Ukraine with a Russian anti-air missile system.

ictoan 9y ago

What is it that makes this fishy to you? Why do you think Russia is not responsible? Who else would've done this? Did someone just magically have a rare nerve agent made in Russia, brought it to UK and sprayed it on an ex-Russian spy? Gosh, what a freak accident! Or if someone did it on purpose then what is his intention? Why would someone go out of his way to frame Russia? What is the goal? Purpose? Or maybe... just maybe... it is just Russia being Russia and doing shady Soviet style operations.

hugh4life 9y ago
Mossad could easily be as responsible and they have motive with Syria.
- ictoan 9y ago
  How does Mossad have the facilities and knowledge to produce Novichok? It's not something you can order from Amazon.
  - hugh4life 9y ago
    Vil Mirzayanov(who lives in the US) apparently wrote the forumula for Novichok in a book available on Amazon. https://twitter.com/mashant/status/973930996918865920 https://twitter.com/mashant/status/973930996918865920 "It's the Russians... unless it's anybody else who got the formula from my book (Kindle edition is only $8 on Amazon), Novichok whistle-blower Mirzayanov tells AFP" "The only other possibility, he said, would be that someone used the formulas in his book to make such a weapon." (I personally find it a bit difficult to believe they would actually put the formula for dangerous nerve agent in a book but that's what's reported)
    - scottmf 9y ago
      >I personally find it a bit difficult to believe Quite the skeptic aren’t you.
    - gnode 9y ago
      > I personally find it a bit difficult to believe they would actually put the formula for dangerous nerve agent in a book As the author explained, knowing what the chemical is doesn't help you much with making it, and such information was already available for Sarin and others. Producing these chemicals is a difficult engineering challenge, and incredibly dangerous. Even in the professional labs, people died trying to produce them.
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