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Lots of things banned world over are legal in the USA.

by rorykoehler 9y ago

pjmlp 9y ago
Like carrying guns as if we were still in 1800.
- kurthr 9y ago
  The first percussion cap for a cartridge wasn't patented until 1807, not in common use until 1825-30 when the bolt action arrived, and not popularized until the Colt revolver in 1835. Rapid firing guns of more than ~6 shots didn't arrive in the US until the civil war.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    If you prefer to be pedantic regarding English sentence construction, instead of the actual problem that costs lives every single year, > Like carrying guns as if we were still in the 19th century.
    - kurthr 9y ago
      Actually, it was a point about what the writers of the constitution considered arms in the meaning of the second amendment... they were muskets, not even revolvers much less semi-automatic weapons. I happen to be quite aware of the "actual problem", and I'd like to work with all people to solve it, since I know people who have been killed by fire arms... even if I am a pedant. What is your damage?
  - rorykoehler 9y ago
    Interesting I would have thought it was much earlier. I had to look it up on wikipedia: >The first device identified as a gun, a bamboo tube that used gunpowder to fire a spear, appeared in China around AD 1000. The Chinese had previously invented gunpowder in the 9th century. & >English Privy Wardrobe accounts list "ribaldis", a type of cannon, in the 1340s, and siege guns were used by the English at Calais in 1346.The earliest surviving[clarification needed] firearm in Europe has been found from Otepää, Estonia and it dates to at least 1396. I think it's fair to say that guns have been around a lot longer than the USA has.
    - jessaustin 9y ago
      Presumably children wouldn't write college essays about their experiences protesting the bamboo tube with a spear sticking out of it?
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Is the political flamebait really necessary? It is possible for reasonable people to disagree on the fundamental rights the USA recognizes its citizens have, but that is not a great topic for HN.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Depends how much we care about other people's right to live.
    - Karunamon 9y ago
      This is also political flamebait :/
    - jessaustin 9y ago
      Don't worry we also care about your right to sanctimonious speech.
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Lots of things banned world over are legal in the USA.

pjmlp 9y ago

Like carrying guns as if we were still in 1800.

kurthr 9y ago
The first percussion cap for a cartridge wasn't patented until 1807, not in common use until 1825-30 when the bolt action arrived, and not popularized until the Colt revolver in 1835. Rapid firing guns of more than ~6 shots didn't arrive in the US until the civil war.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  If you prefer to be pedantic regarding English sentence construction, instead of the actual problem that costs lives every single year, > Like carrying guns as if we were still in the 19th century.
  - kurthr 9y ago
    Actually, it was a point about what the writers of the constitution considered arms in the meaning of the second amendment... they were muskets, not even revolvers much less semi-automatic weapons. I happen to be quite aware of the "actual problem", and I'd like to work with all people to solve it, since I know people who have been killed by fire arms... even if I am a pedant. What is your damage?
- rorykoehler 9y ago
  Interesting I would have thought it was much earlier. I had to look it up on wikipedia: >The first device identified as a gun, a bamboo tube that used gunpowder to fire a spear, appeared in China around AD 1000. The Chinese had previously invented gunpowder in the 9th century. & >English Privy Wardrobe accounts list "ribaldis", a type of cannon, in the 1340s, and siege guns were used by the English at Calais in 1346.The earliest surviving[clarification needed] firearm in Europe has been found from Otepää, Estonia and it dates to at least 1396. I think it's fair to say that guns have been around a lot longer than the USA has.
  - jessaustin 9y ago
    Presumably children wouldn't write college essays about their experiences protesting the bamboo tube with a spear sticking out of it?
Karunamon 9y ago
Is the political flamebait really necessary? It is possible for reasonable people to disagree on the fundamental rights the USA recognizes its citizens have, but that is not a great topic for HN.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  Depends how much we care about other people's right to live.
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    This is also political flamebait :/
  - jessaustin 9y ago
    Don't worry we also care about your right to sanctimonious speech.

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