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To me, that makes a lot of sense. Having only one architecture to support and one image to rule them all across the product line is quite a great thing to have.

To me, that makes a lot of sense. Having only one architecture to support and one image to rule them all across the product line is quite a great thing to have. The other day, there was a person who had a "reddit gold" bounty for the first person who can help them get the Pi 0 online. The person basically couldn't get the Pi Zero on the wireless network. They had no USB-OTG adapter or mini HDMI adapter they could use to debug the Pi Zero. I was thinking something along the line of making the Pi USB port a USB-serial gadget, but it was still cumbersome. The "accepted solution" was to pull out the SD card for the Zero, put it into a Pi3B they had, get the 3B online, and put it back to the Zero. I think that was such a brilliant idea. Making it easy for users to achieve such tasks is often overlooked by us who "know too much" to not care about the efficiency of the new hardware. I don't think it was an accident that the Pi is so ubiquitous in education: They made a lot of right decisions to make their product easy to use.

qalmakka 9y ago
Yes, but then promoting the Raspberry Pi as "64 bit product" seems almost gimmicky to me. Ok, you switched to an AArch64 chip, but that was simply because it's what your supplier was producing at that time. It makes no sense to me to promote a feature you don't support or make use of, if not for simple and pure marketing reasons.
- yipbub 9y ago
  That there are other OSes that do support it mean that it is a feature.
  - izacus 9y ago
    Which OSes are that? I couldn't find a single one.
    - blacksmith_tb 9y ago
      There's also Pi64[1] which I have used and liked. 1: https://github.com/bamarni/pi64 https://github.com/bamarni/pi64
    - ac29 9y ago
      Arch Linux ARM will do AArch64: https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-pi-3 https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-...
    - floatboth 9y ago
      FreeBSD/arm64 works great on RPi3
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- candiodari 9y ago
  Reminds me of the 386 when 8M ram was quite a lot. 4 Gigs address space ! Few people even had hard drives that held 4 gigs.
moftz 9y ago
It would be even easier and less vague to just pop out the SD card, open up /etc/network/interfaces, and edit that to add your network. Pop it back in and go. This is what I've done when setting up a new raspberry pi image without having any peripherals attached to it. I ssh in, configure the system to my liking, then make an image of the SD card for future use. I could even turn this work into a script that downloads new raspbian images, edits them for my purposes, then packs them up to be used later.
- jimmies 9y ago
  That's what the person did -- they put wpa_supplicant.conf to the boot partition -- but somehow the Pi wouldn't connect, and they had no way to debug it to figure out what went wrong.
  - safepants 9y ago
    i had this situation before but i realized i missed a critical step: adding wpa_supplicant.conf BEFORE first boot of the pi0w. Not saying it's the same issue, but i was scratching my head for a while there.
cr0sh 9y ago
I'd love to give reddit gold (if I had any) to anyone who could point me to a source for the Pi Zero at the price point it was originally supposed to be selling at: $5.00 I have yet to find it - you can get them cheap, but no where near what the RPi Foundation advertised them at when they first were announced/launched.
- dtparr 9y ago
  It depends where you are. Microcenters generally have them for $5 ($10 for the 'W'), although for Pi Day they're both on sale for $3.14. Sadly, there aren't any near me, but I had a relative who is near them pick up a literal handful last time they came down. Several online places have them for $5, but shipping 'kills the deal' as they say.
  - antongribok 9y ago
    MicroCenter is where I buy them. I happen to have one close by. They also sell the normal RPi3 for $29.99 instead of $35.
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- morganvachon 9y ago
  I got my last two Pi Zero units from Vilros[1], they have the Zero W for $10 which is the intended price from the RPi Foundation. To me, it's worth the extra $5 for WiFi/BT with no dongles. [1] https://www.vilros.com/shop/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-zero-w/ https://www.vilros.com/shop/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-zero-w...

qalmakka 9y ago

Yes, but then promoting the Raspberry Pi as "64 bit product" seems almost gimmicky to me. Ok, you switched to an AArch64 chip, but that was simply because it's what your supplier was producing at that time. It makes no sense to me to promote a feature you don't support or make use of, if not for simple and pure marketing reasons.

yipbub 9y ago
That there are other OSes that do support it mean that it is a feature.
- izacus 9y ago
  Which OSes are that? I couldn't find a single one.
  - blacksmith_tb 9y ago
    There's also Pi64[1] which I have used and liked. 1: https://github.com/bamarni/pi64 https://github.com/bamarni/pi64
  - ac29 9y ago
    Arch Linux ARM will do AArch64: https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-pi-3 https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-...
  - floatboth 9y ago
    FreeBSD/arm64 works great on RPi3
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candiodari 9y ago
Reminds me of the 386 when 8M ram was quite a lot. 4 Gigs address space ! Few people even had hard drives that held 4 gigs.

moftz 9y ago

It would be even easier and less vague to just pop out the SD card, open up /etc/network/interfaces, and edit that to add your network. Pop it back in and go. This is what I've done when setting up a new raspberry pi image without having any peripherals attached to it. I ssh in, configure the system to my liking, then make an image of the SD card for future use. I could even turn this work into a script that downloads new raspbian images, edits them for my purposes, then packs them up to be used later.

jimmies 9y ago
That's what the person did -- they put wpa_supplicant.conf to the boot partition -- but somehow the Pi wouldn't connect, and they had no way to debug it to figure out what went wrong.
- safepants 9y ago
  i had this situation before but i realized i missed a critical step: adding wpa_supplicant.conf BEFORE first boot of the pi0w. Not saying it's the same issue, but i was scratching my head for a while there.

cr0sh 9y ago

I'd love to give reddit gold (if I had any) to anyone who could point me to a source for the Pi Zero at the price point it was originally supposed to be selling at: $5.00 I have yet to find it - you can get them cheap, but no where near what the RPi Foundation advertised them at when they first were announced/launched.

dtparr 9y ago
It depends where you are. Microcenters generally have them for $5 ($10 for the 'W'), although for Pi Day they're both on sale for $3.14. Sadly, there aren't any near me, but I had a relative who is near them pick up a literal handful last time they came down. Several online places have them for $5, but shipping 'kills the deal' as they say.
- antongribok 9y ago
  MicroCenter is where I buy them. I happen to have one close by. They also sell the normal RPi3 for $29.99 instead of $35.
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morganvachon 9y ago
I got my last two Pi Zero units from Vilros[1], they have the Zero W for $10 which is the intended price from the RPi Foundation. To me, it's worth the extra $5 for WiFi/BT with no dongles. [1] https://www.vilros.com/shop/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-zero-w/ https://www.vilros.com/shop/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-zero-w...