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It is akin to not getting your kid vaccinated based on rights to freedom. Your freedom ends where mine begins. And if your botnet infused Windows PC is going to

It is akin to not getting your kid vaccinated based on rights to freedom. Your freedom ends where mine begins. And if your botnet infused Windows PC is going to fuck up my network, I'd say either get off the internet or get your Windows patched.

CamperBob2 9y ago
Except this "vaccine" really does cause autism, or the digital equivalent thereof. Oh, and the doctor administers it by sneaking into your kid's bedroom with a needle in the middle of the night, coming in through a window if you locked the front door. Other than that, yeah, perfect analogy.
blub 9y ago
It's akin to not getting your kid vaccinated because when they give them the vaccine they also change the kid's clothes, haircut and hair color, paint their nails pink and give them a pair of MS smart glasses which record everything you do in your home for vaccination program improvement purposes.
khedoros1 9y ago
Until your kid becomes outdated, and they stop making vaccines for her, sure. (I'd have no problems keeping up to date if Microsoft's support periods were as long as the medical industry's are for my child). At this point, Windows is going to end up just being my mostly-disconnected gaming OS when they stop releasing security updates in a little under 2 years. Windows 10 needs to dump the animated ad tiles and allow complete removal of their remote-processed speech API. If they're going to continue with forced reboots, there needs to be some tech where apps run in suspendable containers, or something. I'm tired of picking up the computer in the morning and trying to remember everything I had open to work on whatever I was doing before the reboot.
- dingo_bat 9y ago
  > when they stop releasing security updates in a little under 2 years. Not going to happen unless MS itself shuts down or they decide to exit the desktop OS market.
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    Are you saying that you think they'll re-extend the Windows 7 extended support period, or did you assume that I was talking about Windows 10?
    - dingo_bat 9y ago
      I am assuming you are talking about Win10. Because you should not be using deprecated software on the internet.
      - khedoros1 9y ago
        Until January 2020, Microsoft is producing security patches for Windows 7. I'll continue using it until that time. Past that point, it'll be a fallback for software that I can't get running under Linux (similar to the positions that XP, 98, and DOS fill for me). If Microsoft only wants to support new software, they should make new software that people want to switch to without being tricked, forced, and coerced into it.
mnl 9y ago
Have you ever been infected like that? I was in 2001 with Code Red, in a perfectly updated Windows 2000 based network. The lessons learned helped me to get to know what I'm doing if I want to use unsupported software in parts of the internet. The thing is it can be done with a reasonable hope of success. Reversing polio, not really. BTW, I'm hiding KB2976978 (still can do it) as I write this. If I can't block any update I don't like I'm not interested in your product. Life's too short for this kind of BS.

CamperBob2 9y ago

Except this "vaccine" really does cause autism, or the digital equivalent thereof. Oh, and the doctor administers it by sneaking into your kid's bedroom with a needle in the middle of the night, coming in through a window if you locked the front door. Other than that, yeah, perfect analogy.

blub 9y ago

It's akin to not getting your kid vaccinated because when they give them the vaccine they also change the kid's clothes, haircut and hair color, paint their nails pink and give them a pair of MS smart glasses which record everything you do in your home for vaccination program improvement purposes.

khedoros1 9y ago

Until your kid becomes outdated, and they stop making vaccines for her, sure. (I'd have no problems keeping up to date if Microsoft's support periods were as long as the medical industry's are for my child). At this point, Windows is going to end up just being my mostly-disconnected gaming OS when they stop releasing security updates in a little under 2 years. Windows 10 needs to dump the animated ad tiles and allow complete removal of their remote-processed speech API. If they're going to continue with forced reboots, there needs to be some tech where apps run in suspendable containers, or something. I'm tired of picking up the computer in the morning and trying to remember everything I had open to work on whatever I was doing before the reboot.

dingo_bat 9y ago
> when they stop releasing security updates in a little under 2 years. Not going to happen unless MS itself shuts down or they decide to exit the desktop OS market.
- khedoros1 9y ago
  Are you saying that you think they'll re-extend the Windows 7 extended support period, or did you assume that I was talking about Windows 10?
  - dingo_bat 9y ago
    I am assuming you are talking about Win10. Because you should not be using deprecated software on the internet.
    - khedoros1 9y ago
      Until January 2020, Microsoft is producing security patches for Windows 7. I'll continue using it until that time. Past that point, it'll be a fallback for software that I can't get running under Linux (similar to the positions that XP, 98, and DOS fill for me). If Microsoft only wants to support new software, they should make new software that people want to switch to without being tricked, forced, and coerced into it.

mnl 9y ago

Have you ever been infected like that? I was in 2001 with Code Red, in a perfectly updated Windows 2000 based network. The lessons learned helped me to get to know what I'm doing if I want to use unsupported software in parts of the internet. The thing is it can be done with a reasonable hope of success. Reversing polio, not really. BTW, I'm hiding KB2976978 (still can do it) as I write this. If I can't block any update I don't like I'm not interested in your product. Life's too short for this kind of BS.