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Just think of all the uncompensated value you've given Y Combinator every time you've left a quality comment on their forum.

icantdrive55 9y ago
I'm o.k. with it here. It might even ruin the site if money was even offered to Moderstors. That said, I don't like when people/companies exploit human nature. Most of us want to help, learn, or just communicate. My biggest gripe is when a dude is filthy rich, and it's usually a man; and they just cheap everything out. The thinking is awalys, I built it, and I'm not breaking any law. It goes double for companies who set up shop in the closest hole to save few bucks. Yes--no man made laws were broken, but morals/ethics--morals I was brought up with were broken. It get's worse every decade, and very few call these guys out. Instead, they are put on pedastools? Actually, clever hypocrites have seized on to the problem, but even at over a year (418 days), nothing is changing. I don't need to mention the charlatan. I see the selfishness everywhere. It's just greed wrapped up in different, clever packaging. And I know we're not suspose to comment on how the upper class (God--I don't know why they are called upper class.) think. All I know is they have abused their position, a position of influence because of their wealth, to a disgusting level. I am forced to live among them. I give them half smiles. I'm polite. I have zero respect for them though. And when they do decide to give a bit back; they can't just give. They need to micromanage the "gift", or put their name on it. They just can't give. And I'm not just picking on tech/manufacturers. I see it everywhere. I usually just have to follow the money to find the rat. I'm not in a good mood? Everytime I tell my version of what I'm seeing, I feel the need to make excuses. Why? Because I know their will be the usual backlash, and justification--usually by the unpaid/underpaid followers of these guys.
samschooler 9y ago
Then again, Y Combinator makes no direct money off HN. AWS’ docs, if they are quality directly impacts their profit because more people can use their services more easily.
- TAForObvReasons 9y ago
  YC does two things that aren't directly making money but are definitely helping their portfolio companies: 1) Special ad positions with front-page placement (currently #22 is "Willing (YC S15) Is Hiring a UI / UX Designer" https://willing.com/designer https://willing.com/designer , a privileged post that can't be voted or commented on) 2) The moderators can and sometimes do intervene by removing certain comments that are critical of YC companies. Comments make the forum more interesting to the community, which increases eyeballs and makes the front page spots more valuable. And shaping the discourse helps with damage control when necessary.
  - justinjlynn 9y ago
    Nothing is free. If you aren't paying, you're the product.
    - justinjlynn 9y ago
      Personally, I'm surprised that's a controversial statement.
      - Letmesleep69 9y ago
        Its not on this forum. Its so common as to be a cliche.
        owlninja 9y ago
        It's eye-roll inducing at this point.
        justinjlynn 9y ago
        That's probably true but it seems so easy for people to forget.
    - jjeaff 9y ago

icantdrive55 9y ago

I'm o.k. with it here. It might even ruin the site if money was even offered to Moderstors. That said, I don't like when people/companies exploit human nature. Most of us want to help, learn, or just communicate. My biggest gripe is when a dude is filthy rich, and it's usually a man; and they just cheap everything out. The thinking is awalys, I built it, and I'm not breaking any law. It goes double for companies who set up shop in the closest hole to save few bucks. Yes--no man made laws were broken, but morals/ethics--morals I was brought up with were broken. It get's worse every decade, and very few call these guys out. Instead, they are put on pedastools? Actually, clever hypocrites have seized on to the problem, but even at over a year (418 days), nothing is changing. I don't need to mention the charlatan. I see the selfishness everywhere. It's just greed wrapped up in different, clever packaging. And I know we're not suspose to comment on how the upper class (God--I don't know why they are called upper class.) think. All I know is they have abused their position, a position of influence because of their wealth, to a disgusting level. I am forced to live among them. I give them half smiles. I'm polite. I have zero respect for them though. And when they do decide to give a bit back; they can't just give. They need to micromanage the "gift", or put their name on it. They just can't give. And I'm not just picking on tech/manufacturers. I see it everywhere. I usually just have to follow the money to find the rat. I'm not in a good mood? Everytime I tell my version of what I'm seeing, I feel the need to make excuses. Why? Because I know their will be the usual backlash, and justification--usually by the unpaid/underpaid followers of these guys.

samschooler 9y ago

Then again, Y Combinator makes no direct money off HN. AWS’ docs, if they are quality directly impacts their profit because more people can use their services more easily.

TAForObvReasons 9y ago
YC does two things that aren't directly making money but are definitely helping their portfolio companies: 1) Special ad positions with front-page placement (currently #22 is "Willing (YC S15) Is Hiring a UI / UX Designer" https://willing.com/designer https://willing.com/designer , a privileged post that can't be voted or commented on) 2) The moderators can and sometimes do intervene by removing certain comments that are critical of YC companies. Comments make the forum more interesting to the community, which increases eyeballs and makes the front page spots more valuable. And shaping the discourse helps with damage control when necessary.
- justinjlynn 9y ago
  Nothing is free. If you aren't paying, you're the product.
  - justinjlynn 9y ago
    Personally, I'm surprised that's a controversial statement.
    - Letmesleep69 9y ago
      Its not on this forum. Its so common as to be a cliche.
      - owlninja 9y ago
        It's eye-roll inducing at this point.
        justinjlynn 9y ago
        That's probably true but it seems so easy for people to forget.
  - jjeaff 9y ago