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If these were Hollywood produced films from Hollywood artists, there would be talk of defacement, interfering with the integrity of the work, etc...

notatoad 9y ago
Yeah, but they aren't Hollywood produced films, they're low-budget, low barrier to produce conspiracy videos. If Hollywood starts making videos about how chemtrails are turning your kids gay, then that will be a valid comparison. But the reason Hollywood gets to talk about artistic integrity is because they actually have some.
- mirimir 9y ago
  BS about chemtrails regardless, modern chemistry has given us lots of estrogenic substances in our food and bodies. And maybe not homosexuality, which may be mostly genetic. But maybe reduced sperm counts?
  - asp2insp 9y ago
    The studies mentioned here suggest nicotine, stress, and plastics may be to blame: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/health/male-sperm-count-problem.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/health/male-sperm-count-p... Estrogenic substances such as atrazine have been correlated with lower sperm count in agricultural workers (e.g. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0427_050427_strangedays3.html https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0427_050427...) but I don't know of a study showing the effects through the food distribution chain, only ones on field workers.
    - meric 9y ago
      Soy products.
    - mirimir 9y ago
      > ... and plastics ... The issue with plastics is mostly about plasticizers. Maybe in some cases, monomers. And plastics are ubiquitous in food packaging. Even steel cans are generally coated with plastic, rather than tin.
wavefunction 9y ago
What about Bollywood artists? How about Nigerian movie producers? Is it just Hollywood? How deep does this rabbit-hole go?!?
tehwebguy 9y ago
The responses to your false equivalency weren’t particularly helpful so I’ll jump in. The relationship between movie studios and theaters is vastly different from that of YouTube and its content creators: 1. Theaters desperately want the content that studios create, so they buy it on the studio’s (distro company’s) terms. 2. Content creators on YT, however, have no power over YouTube. They desperately want viewers AND money for their content. YouTube offers both, albeit on their own, unilateral terms.

notatoad 9y ago

Yeah, but they aren't Hollywood produced films, they're low-budget, low barrier to produce conspiracy videos. If Hollywood starts making videos about how chemtrails are turning your kids gay, then that will be a valid comparison. But the reason Hollywood gets to talk about artistic integrity is because they actually have some.

mirimir 9y ago
BS about chemtrails regardless, modern chemistry has given us lots of estrogenic substances in our food and bodies. And maybe not homosexuality, which may be mostly genetic. But maybe reduced sperm counts?
- asp2insp 9y ago
  The studies mentioned here suggest nicotine, stress, and plastics may be to blame: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/health/male-sperm-count-problem.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/health/male-sperm-count-p... Estrogenic substances such as atrazine have been correlated with lower sperm count in agricultural workers (e.g. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0427_050427_strangedays3.html https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0427_050427...) but I don't know of a study showing the effects through the food distribution chain, only ones on field workers.
  - meric 9y ago
    Soy products.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    > ... and plastics ... The issue with plastics is mostly about plasticizers. Maybe in some cases, monomers. And plastics are ubiquitous in food packaging. Even steel cans are generally coated with plastic, rather than tin.

wavefunction 9y ago

What about Bollywood artists? How about Nigerian movie producers? Is it just Hollywood? How deep does this rabbit-hole go?!?

tehwebguy 9y ago

The responses to your false equivalency weren’t particularly helpful so I’ll jump in. The relationship between movie studios and theaters is vastly different from that of YouTube and its content creators: 1. Theaters desperately want the content that studios create, so they buy it on the studio’s (distro company’s) terms. 2. Content creators on YT, however, have no power over YouTube. They desperately want viewers AND money for their content. YouTube offers both, albeit on their own, unilateral terms.