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Anyone got a clip? I'm kind of doubting auto tune is being used but wouldn't be surprised if they were using something like a flange or a phase shift effect.

Anyone got a clip? I'm kind of doubting auto tune is being used but wouldn't be surprised if they were using something like a flange or a phase shift effect. Both kind of get looped in with the "auto-tune" sound.

pragmar 16y ago
try the sample of "500 miles high" here: http://www.amazon.com/Chick-Corea-Songbook-Manhattan-Transfer/dp/B002IVLWG0 http://www.amazon.com/Chick-Corea-Songbook-Manhattan-Transfe... specifically the first two notes of the female lead (some-day) in the audio clip - some suspicious processing going on there.
- wazoox 16y ago
  I'm pretty sure that the "weird sound" we hear are the reverberation early reflections. Reverb processor introduces a slightly delayed and damped set of reflections (10 to 250 ms late), so what we hear is the first note attack, slightly lower than the sustained note (the singer starts a bit low and corrects herself along), that gives that effect. I've been a sound engineer until 1996, and I know that auto-tune definitely use some formant-aware phase shifting, so that a slight pitch correction (up to a couple of commas) must be essentially inaudible if properly used. Heck, back in the 1980s when we only had Eventide H3000 to save a poor performance, we could make a convincing approximation of the auto-tune effect in post-production, and when the digitech vocalist MV-5 became available, it made a really decent job at real-time pitch-correction, and it was back in 1995. Do you really think that a state-of-the-art fx module used by a competent sound engineer in 2010 would be audible? No way, sir.
Terretta 16y ago
Listen to the samples on Amazon. The first track's clip, in particular, sounds like what the negative reviewer is complaining about. http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/media/sample.m3u/ref=dm_mu_dp_trk1_smpl?ie=UTF8&catalogItemType=track&ASIN=B002OY9G46&DownloadLocation=CD http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/media/sample.m3u/ref=dm_mu_d... Maybe it's being used for effect?

pragmar 16y ago

try the sample of "500 miles high" here: http://www.amazon.com/Chick-Corea-Songbook-Manhattan-Transfer/dp/B002IVLWG0 http://www.amazon.com/Chick-Corea-Songbook-Manhattan-Transfe... specifically the first two notes of the female lead (some-day) in the audio clip - some suspicious processing going on there.

wazoox 16y ago
I'm pretty sure that the "weird sound" we hear are the reverberation early reflections. Reverb processor introduces a slightly delayed and damped set of reflections (10 to 250 ms late), so what we hear is the first note attack, slightly lower than the sustained note (the singer starts a bit low and corrects herself along), that gives that effect. I've been a sound engineer until 1996, and I know that auto-tune definitely use some formant-aware phase shifting, so that a slight pitch correction (up to a couple of commas) must be essentially inaudible if properly used. Heck, back in the 1980s when we only had Eventide H3000 to save a poor performance, we could make a convincing approximation of the auto-tune effect in post-production, and when the digitech vocalist MV-5 became available, it made a really decent job at real-time pitch-correction, and it was back in 1995. Do you really think that a state-of-the-art fx module used by a competent sound engineer in 2010 would be audible? No way, sir.

Terretta 16y ago

Listen to the samples on Amazon. The first track's clip, in particular, sounds like what the negative reviewer is complaining about. http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/media/sample.m3u/ref=dm_mu_dp_trk1_smpl?ie=UTF8&catalogItemType=track&ASIN=B002OY9G46&DownloadLocation=CD http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/media/sample.m3u/ref=dm_mu_d... Maybe it's being used for effect?