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Trump nominates torturer to lead CIA, HN erupts with anti-Obama comments...

• jack6e 9y ago
  >> "You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go 'according to plan.' Even if the plan is horrifying!" - Joker from the Dark Knight We mostly expect this type of nomination from Trump. But as most of the anti-Obama comments state, we were fooled into expecting more from him. Obama pretended to be different, which made his sameness all the more stark and disappointing.
  • jkmcf 9y ago
    So much better in Mark Hammil's voice, especially the last sentence!
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• existencebox 9y ago
  I'm frankly more taken aback by both how 1. Comments regarding how pervasive bad operators are throughout our govt. are flagged and downvoted to the bottom of the thread, even when they're the most relevant to HN with respect to governmental participants on tech/startup boards. 2. That despite such a high score and comment volume, for what I'd say is a rather important topic, this thread is already flagged to page 3 and below. The entire handling of this thread, for the weight I'd give the topic, has saddened me. I'll try and make an HN-contributive point with regards to the OP out of this meta-complaint in observing that while there's a lot of finger pointing and blame in this thread, I don't see enough asking "Ok, so _now what_." How do we push back against the normalization of torture? As observed elsewhere, govt. employees who had a hand in some of this now hold positions within our companies. Is it feasible/desirable to take a social role in making them unwelcome there? This is certainly the path I'll be trying, for as little influence as I have in my business dealings.
  • Sone7 9y ago
    My other comment on this page got 11 points in 6 minutes. But since then, every time I refresh the page my comment shows up as 'compressed' (as if it had been flagged), and it has been been on 11 points every time I've checked (now an hour old). Weird shit happening here for sure.
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    • existencebox 9y ago
      To echo a sentiment I posted in another thread. "I don't mean to 'complain about points' but it's rather absurd to look at the wild swings from +8 to -8 and back again for any of my posts on this topic. It speaks to me that there are at least two 'factions' with very polarizing opinions on this, and the context has turned less from discussion into silencing vs vouching. I certainly don't remember seeing these patterns as strongly 5+ years ago." I've become increasingly unhappy with the quality of discourse over the last few years, especially on these "fringe" topics. It's doubly sad because I haven't found comparably good levels of discussion that HN sometimes generates, but for these other topics. (Ignoring the additional sadness that I fear by sticking our heads in the sand about anything that smells like politics we're in for a "Very fun" next few decades, I've historically been a strong advocate that to draw a hard line in the sand between "this is tech" and "this is politics" is to abscond a lot of responsibility _every_ expert community should have for the political space they operate in)
  • Sone7 9y ago
    Update: My comment is compressed even when opened in a brand new browser, and this thread no longer shows up on the News pages at all, at least the first seven pages. If I'm not mistaken, there has been no reason for this given whatsoever. Weird weird weird shit.
    • NicoJuicy 9y ago
      I sometimes come across political news in my feed and then post it. These type of posts get flagged almost immediately fyi