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Small point, but stack-pointers are swapped... not the full stack. The way you've worded it makes it seem like the whole stack is copied which of course is not

• jstimpfle 9y ago
  Right. And I think a typical stack size is ballpark 8MB, not 8KB, these days.
  • Cyph0n 9y ago
    I was working with pthreads recently and the default thread stack size is 8M.
  • scottlamb 9y ago
    It varies. 8MiB is believable. That's 8MiB (plus a guard page) of address space. Typically it's divided into 4KiB ("small") pages which are only backed with real RAM once accessed. So maybe only 4KiB of real RAM, depending on what your program is doing...plus whatever bookkeeping the kernel needs, which I think can be as much as 128KiB on Linux, unfortunately. (At least something makes it use that much for me at work, although it might be related to something special I'm doing.) It's also possible (but not common) to release accessed-but-no-longer-needed pages. Doing this when returning to a thread pool avoids situations where one occasional deep call chain causes all the threads in the pool to eventually become huge.
• belovedeagle 9y ago
  But it is: bringing the new stack into the cache, and eventually flushing the dirty one back to memory, is essentially the same as copying it.
• jacobush 9y ago
  True and in a machine with 0 cache, it's 100% true. Though, in real world with caches, it a little muddier. Yes, the stack pointer is switched. Depending on how much is referenced off that stack pointer, though, much of the stack may be in fact switched - in the cache.