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> That line is hilarious. How exactly are they "earning" anything? They're just getting deferred pay for those days or deferred day offs, which were supposed to

> That line is hilarious. How exactly are they "earning" anything? They're just getting deferred pay for those days or deferred day offs, which were supposed to be day-offs in the first place, as they were saturdays. Well done, trying to claim/protect rights for Huawei engineers who just happen to be the best paid tech workers in China getting 20 times of the national average. Have a look at their online discussions which are free to view, just check the sheer number of Groupon style shopping frenzy for investment properties - http://xinsheng.huawei.com/cn/index.php?app=forum&mod=Detail&act=index&id=2920773 http://xinsheng.huawei.com/cn/index.php?app=forum&mod=Detail... http://xinsheng.huawei.com/cn/index.php?app=forum&mod=Detail&act=index&id=1070925 http://xinsheng.huawei.com/cn/index.php?app=forum&mod=Detail... http://xinsheng.huawei.com/cn/index.php?app=forum&mod=Detail&act=index&id=130698 http://xinsheng.huawei.com/cn/index.php?app=forum&mod=Detail... there are hundreds more, if not thousands more. Trust yourself one thing - when their average pay is like 20 times of the national average, they don't need you to jump up and argue for their annual leave related rights.

pgeorgi 9y ago
> argue for their rights. Pointing out such semantic plays isn't fighting for their rights, it's calling a spade a spade. Which can be entirely self-interested, given how such schemes are imitated wherever possible.
- dis-sys 9y ago
  I put the keywords "Huawei group buy property" (in Chinese) in google and it returned almost 300 results from their company's discussion forum xinsheng.huawei.com. Now you can factor in those organised offline and those using other social media such as WeChat groups. You can paint it whatever you like. The point here is clear - you don't jump up and argue Wall St analysts deserve better pay and more annual leaves, for the exact same reason, when Huawei engineers are getting 20 times of the national average pay, it is not a smart call to point out such stupidities seen in one of Huawei's internal docs.
  - pgeorgi 9y ago
    > The point here is clear - you don't jump up and argue Wall St analysts deserve better pay and more annual leaves Nowhere did the grand-poster do that for the Huawei folks. And Huawei paying "outrageous" money doesn't exempt them from questions and/or ridicule when doing stupid stunts (even if related to the very same money) like promoting deferred vacation as "extra". I'd expect Huawei execs to be able to count.
  - ecshafer 9y ago
    Human rights are human rights. The scheme is an immoral play to get work out of workers and crush them. The money is inconsequential. you bring up wallstreet, well I think their workers should have guaranteed time off and strict weekly work hours also. Anything over 40 hours should be paid with extra money or extra time off as far as I am concerned.
bad_good_guy 9y ago
You are immediately combative to a comment that merely points of the ridiculousness of the marketed "benefit" of working extras days for these employees. Which horse do you have in this race?

pgeorgi 9y ago

> argue for their rights. Pointing out such semantic plays isn't fighting for their rights, it's calling a spade a spade. Which can be entirely self-interested, given how such schemes are imitated wherever possible.

dis-sys 9y ago
I put the keywords "Huawei group buy property" (in Chinese) in google and it returned almost 300 results from their company's discussion forum xinsheng.huawei.com. Now you can factor in those organised offline and those using other social media such as WeChat groups. You can paint it whatever you like. The point here is clear - you don't jump up and argue Wall St analysts deserve better pay and more annual leaves, for the exact same reason, when Huawei engineers are getting 20 times of the national average pay, it is not a smart call to point out such stupidities seen in one of Huawei's internal docs.
- pgeorgi 9y ago
  > The point here is clear - you don't jump up and argue Wall St analysts deserve better pay and more annual leaves Nowhere did the grand-poster do that for the Huawei folks. And Huawei paying "outrageous" money doesn't exempt them from questions and/or ridicule when doing stupid stunts (even if related to the very same money) like promoting deferred vacation as "extra". I'd expect Huawei execs to be able to count.
- ecshafer 9y ago
  Human rights are human rights. The scheme is an immoral play to get work out of workers and crush them. The money is inconsequential. you bring up wallstreet, well I think their workers should have guaranteed time off and strict weekly work hours also. Anything over 40 hours should be paid with extra money or extra time off as far as I am concerned.

bad_good_guy 9y ago

You are immediately combative to a comment that merely points of the ridiculousness of the marketed "benefit" of working extras days for these employees. Which horse do you have in this race?