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Facebook doesn't spread hatred, people spread hatred. Sure, Facebook could crack down on the way people are using their service/their tool, but I don't think t

Facebook doesn't spread hatred, people spread hatred. Sure, Facebook could crack down on the way people are using their service/their tool, but I don't think they are responsible for the actions of users. What about: - Broadband internet is spreading hatred - Chrome Browser is spreading hatred - ISPs are spreading hatred (etc) Don't blame a company, or the service they provide. A crackdown on Facebook will force the hating people to another tool or communication method. They'll probably move to a more encrypted method of communication, which will make finding the wrong-doings and the people much harder. The only thing they could do is ask Facebook to cooperate and provide details to find the haters.

lou1306 9y ago
> which will make finding the wrong-doings and the people much harder This is exactly the point: to push hate-mongering back into the fringe it belongs to. Law enforcement will still be able to crack down on them, have no fear.
foepys 9y ago
> Don't blame a company, or the service they provide Facebook is making billions by exploiting exactly that kind of behavior. The more one-sided and scandalous a headline is, the more clicks it gets. This leads to being seen by more poeple. Also, showing people only what they want to see leads to echo chambers and is ditremental to society as those groups tend to develop into extremes that refuse to accept anything outside of their bubble.
- redcodenl 9y ago
  > Also, showing people only what they want to see leads to echo chambers Not sure I agree with this. The internet made it possbile for the whole world to see information coming from all kinds of sources. Before, in history, you had to rely on local news/newspapers, or even less information. Much more bubbly than this modern age. Again: I think the reason those bubbles appear have to do with society and the urge to belong to a group, Facebook is not to blame here. Facebook reflects people and society, not the other way around.
  - foepys 9y ago
    I don't know about the US but at least in Germany newspapers and even tabloids have certain self-imposed rules regarding fact checking and privacy. All those rules are out of the window on Facebook and other social media and because everybody is anonymous (yes, even Facebook), nobody can be held accountable.
matt4077 9y ago
This is insane... Let’s start with logic: using Facebook is a clear indicator that the platform is preferable for the spreading of hatred, compared to alternatives. Blocking this avenue will therefore harm the propaganda effort. The discussion can only be about the magnitude. And there is some obvious support for the idea that the magnitude will be significant: no social media platform has made significant inroads against FB’s reach. People aren’t actively searching for sources of hatred, they simply happen unto the content mixed among their friends’s baby photos. Just look at the barren cesspool of hatred that is voat: it doesn’t have anywhere close to the reach of the market leader these xenophobes were kicked out of, Reddit.
Shivetya 9y ago
I don't blame Facebook. What I blame are politicians and special interest groups making the claims they do without revealing the true reason they are upset, they no longer control the message or distribution of the message. regardless of the factual content politicians and special interests groups always were able to control what we were presented with as truths and lies through the cooperation o the press who in many nations is not independent and even in those where it can it falls into the trap of wanting access so it simply becomes a mouthpiece.

lou1306 9y ago

> which will make finding the wrong-doings and the people much harder This is exactly the point: to push hate-mongering back into the fringe it belongs to. Law enforcement will still be able to crack down on them, have no fear.

foepys 9y ago

> Don't blame a company, or the service they provide Facebook is making billions by exploiting exactly that kind of behavior. The more one-sided and scandalous a headline is, the more clicks it gets. This leads to being seen by more poeple. Also, showing people only what they want to see leads to echo chambers and is ditremental to society as those groups tend to develop into extremes that refuse to accept anything outside of their bubble.

redcodenl 9y ago
> Also, showing people only what they want to see leads to echo chambers Not sure I agree with this. The internet made it possbile for the whole world to see information coming from all kinds of sources. Before, in history, you had to rely on local news/newspapers, or even less information. Much more bubbly than this modern age. Again: I think the reason those bubbles appear have to do with society and the urge to belong to a group, Facebook is not to blame here. Facebook reflects people and society, not the other way around.
- foepys 9y ago
  I don't know about the US but at least in Germany newspapers and even tabloids have certain self-imposed rules regarding fact checking and privacy. All those rules are out of the window on Facebook and other social media and because everybody is anonymous (yes, even Facebook), nobody can be held accountable.

matt4077 9y ago

This is insane... Let’s start with logic: using Facebook is a clear indicator that the platform is preferable for the spreading of hatred, compared to alternatives. Blocking this avenue will therefore harm the propaganda effort. The discussion can only be about the magnitude. And there is some obvious support for the idea that the magnitude will be significant: no social media platform has made significant inroads against FB’s reach. People aren’t actively searching for sources of hatred, they simply happen unto the content mixed among their friends’s baby photos. Just look at the barren cesspool of hatred that is voat: it doesn’t have anywhere close to the reach of the market leader these xenophobes were kicked out of, Reddit.

Shivetya 9y ago

I don't blame Facebook. What I blame are politicians and special interest groups making the claims they do without revealing the true reason they are upset, they no longer control the message or distribution of the message. regardless of the factual content politicians and special interests groups always were able to control what we were presented with as truths and lies through the cooperation o the press who in many nations is not independent and even in those where it can it falls into the trap of wanting access so it simply becomes a mouthpiece.