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If you're open to learning about why it _actually is_ important, there are some good resources out there to give you a little more context as to the reasons why

by jayroh 9y ago

If you're open to learning about why it _actually is_ important, there are some good resources out there to give you a little more context as to the reasons why. You could read this: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-diversity-right-thing-snap-story.html http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-diversity-righ... Or maybe if you like listening instead: https://www.gimletmedia.com/reply-all/52-raising-the-bar https://www.gimletmedia.com/reply-all/52-raising-the-bar So, while it's a nuanced and complicated topic, there are actual reasons why this benefits a project like Rust. Diversity amongst any organization is not only good for society, but objectively the output of the org itself.

swfsql 9y ago
What if it happens that you can only hire one person, and one "externally looks" homogeneous to the rest of the hired workers, but the other one "externally looks" like a minority member, but you think that the first one, based on your own judgment, will be more "out of the box" when having solutions for the company. So no matter what you think, the one from a minority is certainly preferable for hiring?
- kbenson 9y ago
  > So no matter what you think, the one from a minority is certainly preferable for hiring? I think the idea is to include as best as possible what may be hard to assess factors such as difference of experience, culture and upbringing and using that, make a decision as the hirer who you think will benefit the company best, not to choose a person and then override who you think is best just because of one factor. All this really takes is valuing an outside perspective. An yes, sometimes just the skin color can be enough, if that skin color has affected how people see them or any unique problems it has come with. That does mean it is or must be enough though, just that it may be something worth including. As a simple example, I'll leave you this: How We Accidentally Made a Racist Videogame.[1] It should be easy to see how a slightly more diverse group of developers and/or QA testers could have avoided that problem. Similar things exist with dealing with other cultures or countries, or people with disabilities, or if you're really unlucky, just people of the other sex if you're unlucky enough to have that much of a homogeneous set of coworkers. 1: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/01/12/how-we-accidentally-made-a-racist-videogame http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/01/12/how-we-accidentally-made-...

by jayroh 9y ago

swfsql 9y ago

What if it happens that you can only hire one person, and one "externally looks" homogeneous to the rest of the hired workers, but the other one "externally looks" like a minority member, but you think that the first one, based on your own judgment, will be more "out of the box" when having solutions for the company. So no matter what you think, the one from a minority is certainly preferable for hiring?

kbenson 9y ago
> So no matter what you think, the one from a minority is certainly preferable for hiring? I think the idea is to include as best as possible what may be hard to assess factors such as difference of experience, culture and upbringing and using that, make a decision as the hirer who you think will benefit the company best, not to choose a person and then override who you think is best just because of one factor. All this really takes is valuing an outside perspective. An yes, sometimes just the skin color can be enough, if that skin color has affected how people see them or any unique problems it has come with. That does mean it is or must be enough though, just that it may be something worth including. As a simple example, I'll leave you this: How We Accidentally Made a Racist Videogame.[1] It should be easy to see how a slightly more diverse group of developers and/or QA testers could have avoided that problem. Similar things exist with dealing with other cultures or countries, or people with disabilities, or if you're really unlucky, just people of the other sex if you're unlucky enough to have that much of a homogeneous set of coworkers. 1: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/01/12/how-we-accidentally-made-a-racist-videogame http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/01/12/how-we-accidentally-made-...