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Nearly every form of communication is a form of signaling your values in one way or another ("virtue signaling"). Your post is filled with things that signal y

Nearly every form of communication is a form of signaling your values in one way or another ("virtue signaling"). Your post is filled with things that signal your virtues. Why is virtue signaling bad? How is it not just a standard part of humans communicating with each other?

Vendan 9y ago
Virtue signaling has become a perjorative term: "In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action. ... Examples of behavior described as virtue signalling include changing Facebook profile pictures to support a cause, participation in the Ice Bucket Challenge, offering thoughts and prayers after a tragedy, celebrity speeches during award shows, politicians pandering to constituents on ideological issues."
- ncallaway 9y ago
  I guess a code of conduct is literally virtue signaling _with the express purpose of signaling the virtues the community will tolerate_. It's like looking at a profit and loss sheet, and perjoritivity calling it a "economic document". That's literally just what it is doing, and it's stated purpose for existing.
  - Vendan 9y ago
    if the profit and loss sheet was pulled from some other company, and doesn't accurately represent the company? I'd call that lying, and there'd probably be people going to jail. That's why this is being negatively referred to as virtue signaling: "That line that made you feel like you'd get something out of the event was nothing else than an useless talking point copied of some checklist that made the organizers of the event feel like they are doing the right thing."
smileysteve 9y ago
While you are correct, the context (at best, checklist) were to imply that it is "JUST" virtue signaling with little purpose beyond that; and in many cases, with attendees and organizers that pay as much thought to it as an iTunes Terms of Service agreement.

Vendan 9y ago

Virtue signaling has become a perjorative term: "In recent years, the term has become more commonly used as a pejorative characterization by commentators to criticize what they regard as empty, or superficial support of certain political views, and also used within groups to criticize their own members for valuing outward appearance over substantive action. ... Examples of behavior described as virtue signalling include changing Facebook profile pictures to support a cause, participation in the Ice Bucket Challenge, offering thoughts and prayers after a tragedy, celebrity speeches during award shows, politicians pandering to constituents on ideological issues."

ncallaway 9y ago
I guess a code of conduct is literally virtue signaling _with the express purpose of signaling the virtues the community will tolerate_. It's like looking at a profit and loss sheet, and perjoritivity calling it a "economic document". That's literally just what it is doing, and it's stated purpose for existing.
- Vendan 9y ago
  if the profit and loss sheet was pulled from some other company, and doesn't accurately represent the company? I'd call that lying, and there'd probably be people going to jail. That's why this is being negatively referred to as virtue signaling: "That line that made you feel like you'd get something out of the event was nothing else than an useless talking point copied of some checklist that made the organizers of the event feel like they are doing the right thing."

smileysteve 9y ago

While you are correct, the context (at best, checklist) were to imply that it is "JUST" virtue signaling with little purpose beyond that; and in many cases, with attendees and organizers that pay as much thought to it as an iTunes Terms of Service agreement.