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> Trump acted on a recommendation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. Seems legit. I know we all love to bash Trump, but he might not be entire

by jopsen 9y ago

> Trump acted on a recommendation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. Seems legit. I know we all love to bash Trump, but he might not be entirely evil. Sometimes he's not treated fairly, that said it's all well deserved that's for sure :)

tabtab 9y ago
Or, his random chaotic approach may accidentally do the right thing sometimes out of shear probability. A broken clock is right at least twice a day, a random clock is right randomly.
- oh_sigh 9y ago
  Or, he isn't operating on a random chaotic approach.
- Bendingo 9y ago
  No rational person actually believe that POTUS really is 'random' and 'chaotic'. This type of comment has no purpose except as a cheap shot at a disliked president. It simply lowers the S/N ratio and brings HN closer to reddit. Also, correct spelling is 'sheer'.
  - Jordrok 9y ago
    Speak for yourself. Trump acts almost entirely on impulse which is close enough to random. In fact, he described his own thought processes perfectly in the quote: "I don't stand by anything." [1] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/05/01/i-dont-stand-by-anything-trump-withers-under-heat-from-cbs-newss-john-dickerson/?utm_term=.48ff02b9edda https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/05/...
Techonomicon 9y ago
Just because he happens across doing something "good" once in a while doesn't mean he's not completely evil man. It's everyone's birthday once a year.
- googlryas 9y ago
  Just because you and your social group continually assert in any marginally relevant forum that Trump is "completely devoid of ethics" and a "completely evil man"(to take two choice quotes from this thread) doesn't make it true - no matter how much you wish for it.
  - optimuspaul 9y ago
    The validity of both arguments assume the existence of evil. That is not a given.
  - BenSahar 9y ago
    Just to be clear, we're talking about the same guy that settled a fraud case for $25M right as he was taking office and said that the judge on the case couldn't be fair because he's of Mexican decent.
    - hedora 9y ago
      Don’t forget the $30M bribe son-in-law Kushner received while acting as a member of the administration, or the money he’s been funneling into criminal organizations. Just search for: Kushner israel money
    - googlryas 9y ago
      Do we really need to be clear, or are you just trying to make a poor point about a legal strategy that was used by his lawyers? Also, I wasn't aware that a settlement was an admission of guilt. Why are you treating it as such? Does no innocent person ever settle?
      - BenSahar 9y ago
        Does doing something as a legal strategy automatically make it ethical? Would you not say that it is fair (if not correct), based on Trump's history of other questionable ethics (birtherism, infidelity, lying), to assume that his settlement is likely evidence of further unethical behavior? Or should we use the court system as the infallible dispenser of all truth and ethics? If so, I think the American public owes O.J. an apology.
dmode 9y ago
Trump is completely devoid of ethics and morals. He had sex with a pornstar when his wife was pregnant. As a father, when my wife was pregnant that was the most surreal time of my life, where every moment of my life was precious to spend with my wife. Trump is that guy who cheats on a pregnant wife. Now evaluate this decision on these parameters and I am sure we will soon find out that this decision was funded by a campaign donation from one of the opponents of this deals
- philliphaydon 9y ago
  You go from trump cheating on his Wife to being funded. If we take the first bit away this is basically every single president and politician America has had for god knows how Long and will continue to have for ever. No decision is made because it’s the right decision. They are made cos someone slips an envelope under the table.
- googlryas 9y ago
  Many problems with this post. First, you're assuming that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it is very difficult to differentiate between 'please go away with your bullshit because it is distracting' agreement, and a 'here is some money so you don't talk' agreement. If you have special insight into this matter that has not been reported on, please do share it. Second, you're saying he is 'completely devoid of ethics and morals' because he allegedly cheated on his wife when she was pregnant. Has no one with morals or ethics ever cheated on their wife? Do you lose your ethics and morals by cheating on your wife, or are they just never there? Finally, let's assume this did happen. Do you know the relationship status of Donald and Melania? What if they both agreed to have a sexually open marriage before they got married? It wouldn't be too out of left field - Trump was a known playboy.
  - mcphage 9y ago
    > First, you're assuming that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it is very difficult to differentiate between 'please go away with your bullshit because it is distracting' agreement, and a 'here is some money so you don't talk' agreement. If you have special insight into this matter that has not been reported on, please do share it. Are you this naïve in every facet of your life, or only when Trump is involved?
tootie 9y ago
As everyone here is saying the merger would create too much concentration and not enough competition, but that's not the justification that the White House put forward. They said national security which seems far-fetched.
- ascagnel_ 9y ago
  If the merger had gone through, and national security was a concern, I'd imagine someone could make good, reliable money by manufacturing chips in the US for the government at a small scale. National security here is an excuse to stick it to China.

by jopsen 9y ago

tabtab 9y ago

Or, his random chaotic approach may accidentally do the right thing sometimes out of shear probability. A broken clock is right at least twice a day, a random clock is right randomly.

oh_sigh 9y ago
Or, he isn't operating on a random chaotic approach.
Bendingo 9y ago
No rational person actually believe that POTUS really is 'random' and 'chaotic'. This type of comment has no purpose except as a cheap shot at a disliked president. It simply lowers the S/N ratio and brings HN closer to reddit. Also, correct spelling is 'sheer'.
- Jordrok 9y ago
  Speak for yourself. Trump acts almost entirely on impulse which is close enough to random. In fact, he described his own thought processes perfectly in the quote: "I don't stand by anything." [1] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/05/01/i-dont-stand-by-anything-trump-withers-under-heat-from-cbs-newss-john-dickerson/?utm_term=.48ff02b9edda https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/05/...

Techonomicon 9y ago

Just because he happens across doing something "good" once in a while doesn't mean he's not completely evil man. It's everyone's birthday once a year.

googlryas 9y ago
Just because you and your social group continually assert in any marginally relevant forum that Trump is "completely devoid of ethics" and a "completely evil man"(to take two choice quotes from this thread) doesn't make it true - no matter how much you wish for it.
- optimuspaul 9y ago
  The validity of both arguments assume the existence of evil. That is not a given.
- BenSahar 9y ago
  Just to be clear, we're talking about the same guy that settled a fraud case for $25M right as he was taking office and said that the judge on the case couldn't be fair because he's of Mexican decent.
  - hedora 9y ago
    Don’t forget the $30M bribe son-in-law Kushner received while acting as a member of the administration, or the money he’s been funneling into criminal organizations. Just search for: Kushner israel money
  - googlryas 9y ago
    Do we really need to be clear, or are you just trying to make a poor point about a legal strategy that was used by his lawyers? Also, I wasn't aware that a settlement was an admission of guilt. Why are you treating it as such? Does no innocent person ever settle?
    - BenSahar 9y ago
      Does doing something as a legal strategy automatically make it ethical? Would you not say that it is fair (if not correct), based on Trump's history of other questionable ethics (birtherism, infidelity, lying), to assume that his settlement is likely evidence of further unethical behavior? Or should we use the court system as the infallible dispenser of all truth and ethics? If so, I think the American public owes O.J. an apology.

dmode 9y ago

Trump is completely devoid of ethics and morals. He had sex with a pornstar when his wife was pregnant. As a father, when my wife was pregnant that was the most surreal time of my life, where every moment of my life was precious to spend with my wife. Trump is that guy who cheats on a pregnant wife. Now evaluate this decision on these parameters and I am sure we will soon find out that this decision was funded by a campaign donation from one of the opponents of this deals

philliphaydon 9y ago
You go from trump cheating on his Wife to being funded. If we take the first bit away this is basically every single president and politician America has had for god knows how Long and will continue to have for ever. No decision is made because it’s the right decision. They are made cos someone slips an envelope under the table.
googlryas 9y ago
Many problems with this post. First, you're assuming that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it is very difficult to differentiate between 'please go away with your bullshit because it is distracting' agreement, and a 'here is some money so you don't talk' agreement. If you have special insight into this matter that has not been reported on, please do share it. Second, you're saying he is 'completely devoid of ethics and morals' because he allegedly cheated on his wife when she was pregnant. Has no one with morals or ethics ever cheated on their wife? Do you lose your ethics and morals by cheating on your wife, or are they just never there? Finally, let's assume this did happen. Do you know the relationship status of Donald and Melania? What if they both agreed to have a sexually open marriage before they got married? It wouldn't be too out of left field - Trump was a known playboy.
- mcphage 9y ago
  > First, you're assuming that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but it is very difficult to differentiate between 'please go away with your bullshit because it is distracting' agreement, and a 'here is some money so you don't talk' agreement. If you have special insight into this matter that has not been reported on, please do share it. Are you this naïve in every facet of your life, or only when Trump is involved?

tootie 9y ago

As everyone here is saying the merger would create too much concentration and not enough competition, but that's not the justification that the White House put forward. They said national security which seems far-fetched.

ascagnel_ 9y ago
If the merger had gone through, and national security was a concern, I'd imagine someone could make good, reliable money by manufacturing chips in the US for the government at a small scale. National security here is an excuse to stick it to China.