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Source with visas if need be. The majority of female engineers I've worked with have been from China, India, and Eastern Europe. For whatever reason women from

Source with visas if need be. The majority of female engineers I've worked with have been from China, India, and Eastern Europe. For whatever reason women from those areas seem to be represented much more in engineering.

legostormtroopr 9y ago
I don't think a small business like this has the funds on hand to hire someone from overseas just to meet some arbitrary gender metric.
whack 9y ago
It seems to be a causal effect, and not just a random coincidence. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more-gender-equality-the-fewer-women-in-stem/553592/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more... "In countries that empower women, they are less likely to choose math and science professions. it could have to do with the fact that women in countries with higher gender inequality are simply seeking the clearest possible path to financial freedom. And often, that path leads through stem professions. The issue doesn’t appear to be girls’ aptitude for stem professions. In looking at test scores across 67 countries and regions, Stoet and Geary found that girls performed about as well or better than boys did on science in most countries, and in almost all countries, girls would have been capable of college-level science and math classes if they had enrolled in them. But when it comes to their relative strengths, in almost all the countries—all except Romania and Lebanon—boys’ best subject was science, and girls’ was reading. (That is, even if an average girl was as good as an average boy at science, she was still likely to be even better at reading.) Across all countries, 24 percent of girls had science as their best subject, 25 percent of girls’ strength was math, and 51 percent excelled in reading. For boys, the percentages were 38 for science, 42 for math, and 20 for reading. And the more gender-equal the country, as measured by the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index, the larger this gap between boys and girls in having science as their best subject."
- watwut 9y ago
  In Easter Europe, there is much less expectation that women is naturally lazy useless housewife. There is much less tradition of the "women are supposed to be naturally at home and do nothing whole day otherwise there is something wrong with them" I see repeated surprisingly often by Americans. There were no culture wars around women working in 1960. In Easter Europe majority of women (except very small aristocracy) always did useful things and worked whole day (same as men) - the place could not afford half population do nothing. Importantly, pay gap between genders is bigger then in America. So much for women being attracted to money more due to desperation. However, jobs are gender segregated a lot, probably much more. Tech is boy thing, clearly and openly. It is mostly that different things get qualified as "boyish tech" - for instance economics is mostly girly and seen as office administration job. Math is also much less likely to be perceived as "male thing". The attitude that girls don't have what it takes to learn math exists, but is less pronounced. I have heard it first time as adult, although I knew it would be weird for me to do something with physical technology. And I heard it most often from christian circles influenced by Evangelicals, for other people the stereotype was news. There is a lot of push for boys to go to stem, including to tech occupations that don't earn much. Edit: it is very odd to put reading and science into opposite. As if you would be interested in one and not in the other. There is not subject "science" in school either.
asdsa5325 9y ago
But why exactly would a company do that if they can find engineers that meet their skill requirements locally?

legostormtroopr 9y ago

I don't think a small business like this has the funds on hand to hire someone from overseas just to meet some arbitrary gender metric.

whack 9y ago

It seems to be a causal effect, and not just a random coincidence. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more-gender-equality-the-fewer-women-in-stem/553592/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more... "In countries that empower women, they are less likely to choose math and science professions. it could have to do with the fact that women in countries with higher gender inequality are simply seeking the clearest possible path to financial freedom. And often, that path leads through stem professions. The issue doesn’t appear to be girls’ aptitude for stem professions. In looking at test scores across 67 countries and regions, Stoet and Geary found that girls performed about as well or better than boys did on science in most countries, and in almost all countries, girls would have been capable of college-level science and math classes if they had enrolled in them. But when it comes to their relative strengths, in almost all the countries—all except Romania and Lebanon—boys’ best subject was science, and girls’ was reading. (That is, even if an average girl was as good as an average boy at science, she was still likely to be even better at reading.) Across all countries, 24 percent of girls had science as their best subject, 25 percent of girls’ strength was math, and 51 percent excelled in reading. For boys, the percentages were 38 for science, 42 for math, and 20 for reading. And the more gender-equal the country, as measured by the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index, the larger this gap between boys and girls in having science as their best subject."

watwut 9y ago
In Easter Europe, there is much less expectation that women is naturally lazy useless housewife. There is much less tradition of the "women are supposed to be naturally at home and do nothing whole day otherwise there is something wrong with them" I see repeated surprisingly often by Americans. There were no culture wars around women working in 1960. In Easter Europe majority of women (except very small aristocracy) always did useful things and worked whole day (same as men) - the place could not afford half population do nothing. Importantly, pay gap between genders is bigger then in America. So much for women being attracted to money more due to desperation. However, jobs are gender segregated a lot, probably much more. Tech is boy thing, clearly and openly. It is mostly that different things get qualified as "boyish tech" - for instance economics is mostly girly and seen as office administration job. Math is also much less likely to be perceived as "male thing". The attitude that girls don't have what it takes to learn math exists, but is less pronounced. I have heard it first time as adult, although I knew it would be weird for me to do something with physical technology. And I heard it most often from christian circles influenced by Evangelicals, for other people the stereotype was news. There is a lot of push for boys to go to stem, including to tech occupations that don't earn much. Edit: it is very odd to put reading and science into opposite. As if you would be interested in one and not in the other. There is not subject "science" in school either.

asdsa5325 9y ago

But why exactly would a company do that if they can find engineers that meet their skill requirements locally?