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Does detoxify mean getting rid of mean speech?

jimhefferon 9y ago
A few minutes reading /r/The_Donald shows that there is a vast difference between saying "that guy on the internet hurt my feelings" and "this is a threat to civil society."
- randyrand 9y ago
  So what does detoxify mean exactly?
s73v3r_ 9y ago
There was a post on /r/The_Donald not long ago calling for shooting all refuges in the US on sight. Do you feel that is just "mean speech"?
- oreo81 9y ago
  I saw that exact post on r/sandersforpresident!
- prepend 9y ago
  It depends on the discussion and I’d need to see the link. While obviously calls for violence are illegal (FBI steps in), there are many possibilities where the discussion could be useful (eg, convincing people to better understand refugees). Largely I’ve been desensitized to complaints about TD as typically it results in hyperbole (eg, election was a direct threat to people’s lives).
  - s73v3r_ 9y ago
    "It depends on the discussion" You're gonna have to provide a context in which this wouldn't be a terrible and unacceptable thing to say, cause I can't think of one.
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    - prepend 9y ago
      Not whether it is a terrible thing to say. But whether saying it should be banned. Here’s a super simple example. Jerk: “I think we should shoot immigrants” Non-jerk: “that’s a bad idea because immigrants have souls” Former-jerk: “good point. I changed my mind and no longer think shooting immigrants is a good idea. In fact, I will now dedicate my life to helping the needy and everyone who reads this thread should as well.” It would be bad to ban a thread such as the one above.
- douglaswlance 9y ago
  People would downvote them or argue it out. If that person were never able to share that opinion, they would never get feedback that it is an unacceptable opinion; and might therefore act on it.
  - s73v3r_ 9y ago
    Moderators of T_D prevent that. Unless you subscribe to the subreddit, you're unable to vote, and despite constantly rallying against "safe spaces", they instaban anyone who goes contrary to the group. That, and I find it impossible to believe that someone who is able to post that online would know that it is an unacceptable position.

A few minutes reading /r/The_Donald shows that there is a vast difference between saying "that guy on the internet hurt my feelings" and "this is a threat to civil society."

randyrand 9y ago
So what does detoxify mean exactly?

s73v3r_ 9y ago

There was a post on /r/The_Donald not long ago calling for shooting all refuges in the US on sight. Do you feel that is just "mean speech"?

oreo81 9y ago
I saw that exact post on r/sandersforpresident!
prepend 9y ago
It depends on the discussion and I’d need to see the link. While obviously calls for violence are illegal (FBI steps in), there are many possibilities where the discussion could be useful (eg, convincing people to better understand refugees). Largely I’ve been desensitized to complaints about TD as typically it results in hyperbole (eg, election was a direct threat to people’s lives).
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  "It depends on the discussion" You're gonna have to provide a context in which this wouldn't be a terrible and unacceptable thing to say, cause I can't think of one.
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - prepend 9y ago
    Not whether it is a terrible thing to say. But whether saying it should be banned. Here’s a super simple example. Jerk: “I think we should shoot immigrants” Non-jerk: “that’s a bad idea because immigrants have souls” Former-jerk: “good point. I changed my mind and no longer think shooting immigrants is a good idea. In fact, I will now dedicate my life to helping the needy and everyone who reads this thread should as well.” It would be bad to ban a thread such as the one above.
douglaswlance 9y ago
People would downvote them or argue it out. If that person were never able to share that opinion, they would never get feedback that it is an unacceptable opinion; and might therefore act on it.
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  Moderators of T_D prevent that. Unless you subscribe to the subreddit, you're unable to vote, and despite constantly rallying against "safe spaces", they instaban anyone who goes contrary to the group. That, and I find it impossible to believe that someone who is able to post that online would know that it is an unacceptable position.