>the more relevant thing is marketshare reports Looking at that IDC report, you'll note that Samsung is at -6.4% year over year for 2017. Amazon is at +30.0%.

>the more relevant thing is marketshare reports Looking at that IDC report, you'll note that Samsung is at -6.4% year over year for 2017. Amazon is at +30.0%. If you look just at Q4, Amazon was in second place behind Apple (with Samsung in third), at +50.3% year over year compared to Samsung's -13.0%. Those numbers do not indicate to me that Samsung is doing well in Android tablets. Granted the Samsung tablets are much more expensive than a Kindle Fire, so you'd expect it to be low, but the year over year downward trend is not impressive. https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS43549518 https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS43549518 EDIT - also note that the Galaxy Tab S3 (I think this is the current version?) is still shipping Android 7. Apparently Android 8 support is in development, but "it's going to be a while." https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s7-galaxy-a5-galaxy-tab-s3-android-8-0-oreo-update https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s7-galaxy-a5-galaxy-ta... Bummer about Google's official tablets, they were better about software updates. The Pixel C (released at the end of 2015) got android 8 but will not get 9. Still, that was pretty good by Android standards. Re: Surfaces, I'm probably overestimating these because I see them in professional use. They're pretty expensive to get much consumer traction.