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"one size fits all scheme" Considering the innovation is in 3-D printing a home, I think it can be customizable

by snissn 9y ago

DoreenMichele 9y ago
The missing key ingredient will be local information. The hoi polloi from 1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. In the Great Depression, they gave free bathtubs to dirt poor people in shacks in Appalachia. The shacks had no running water. The locals stuck them on the front porch and used them to store coal, fuel for cooking and winter heat. The monied types that gave them the tubs mocked them for their idiocy. What kind of fool puts a bathtub on the front porch and fills it with coal? Coming up with multiple variations of top down templates doesn't fix the essential problem here.
- d0lph 9y ago
  > The hoi polloi from 1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. Kind of harsh and presumptuous.
  - DoreenMichele 9y ago
    I spent nearly 6 years homeless. I am American and have about 6 years of college. The hoi polloi didn't want to listen to me as to what I wanted. I found the degree to which I was given a deaf ear rather harsh. Other than my lack of money, I am essentially one of the hoi polloi. I'm even recently decended from low level German nobility. My maternal grandmother's maiden name started with von and the family sold the title when it fell on hard times. But I'm poor, so I must be an incompetent dolt who has no clue what is best for me. I'm quite confident that prejudice runs all the deeper towards people who have more differences than just income from the powers that be.
    - d0lph 9y ago
      I don't think you are a complete dolt, nor do I think that you are always right in every discussion. You are making assumptions about large groups of people who I highly doubt are carbon copies of each other.
- jaredhansen 9y ago
  >The hoi polloi from 1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. Not just unfair/ungrounded, but incorrect as a matter of usage: "hoi polloi"[0] means the exact opposite of what you're using it to mean. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoi_polloi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoi_polloi
  - DoreenMichele 9y ago
    Yup, I took Greek in college. I am well aware that it originally meant the people and has come to mean the exact opposite -- the high falutin types. My Greek professor covered that ironic history. The possibility for misunderstanding is part of why I usually avoid the expression. But I will leave it. I think people here know what I mean by it, and never mind the opening for pretending I don't have a point because we don't agree on this one term.
- benjohnson 9y ago
  >>1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. There's a balance - it's reasonable to think that the civilizations in the 1st world do have some expertise to offer.
- Turing_Machine 9y ago
  Sounds like a myth to me. People in houses without running water do, in fact, own bathtubs and do, in fact, take baths. I know, because I've been one of them.
  - DoreenMichele 9y ago
    This is not about Appalachia per se. My recollection is this also occurred in Appalachia. That detail may be inaccurate and is not really terribly important to my point: http://www.christopherfowler.co.uk/blog/2016/10/15/ps-more-on-the-working-class-people/ http://www.christopherfowler.co.uk/blog/2016/10/15/ps-more-o... There has been talk about coals being kept in the bath. I know how that story began. In the East End of London, 25 years ago, some well-intentioned people built houses for the working classes and put in baths. The baths were put in the scullery, and had neither a water supply nor a waste pipe. The rents were very high, and the tenants found it necessary to let some of the rooms, and as in those circumstances the fixed bath was found to be more trouble than a portable bath, and as there was no adequate coal cellar, the bath was used as a coal store. Why give baths to miners? Why give baths to agricultural labourers? They will put coals in the baths.” Why does any woman put coals in the bath? Because she has not been provided with a coal cellar. So long as you are not willing to give her a coal cellar, it is a proper form of protest to go on putting coals in the bath.”
- jlebrech 9y ago
  build one, iterate. the local knowledge will come.

"one size fits all scheme" Considering the innovation is in 3-D printing a home, I think it can be customizable

by snissn 9y ago

"one size fits all scheme" Considering the innovation is in 3-D printing a home, I think it can be customizable

The missing key ingredient will be local information. The hoi polloi from 1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. In the Great Depression, they gave free bathtubs to dirt poor people in shacks in Appalachia. The shacks had no running water. The locals stuck them on the front porch and used them to store coal, fuel for cooking and winter heat. The monied types that gave them the tubs mocked them for their idiocy. What kind of fool puts a bathtub on the front porch and fills it with coal? Coming up with multiple variations of top down templates doesn't fix the essential problem here.

d0lph 9y ago
> The hoi polloi from 1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. Kind of harsh and presumptuous.
- DoreenMichele 9y ago
  I spent nearly 6 years homeless. I am American and have about 6 years of college. The hoi polloi didn't want to listen to me as to what I wanted. I found the degree to which I was given a deaf ear rather harsh. Other than my lack of money, I am essentially one of the hoi polloi. I'm even recently decended from low level German nobility. My maternal grandmother's maiden name started with von and the family sold the title when it fell on hard times. But I'm poor, so I must be an incompetent dolt who has no clue what is best for me. I'm quite confident that prejudice runs all the deeper towards people who have more differences than just income from the powers that be.
  - d0lph 9y ago
    I don't think you are a complete dolt, nor do I think that you are always right in every discussion. You are making assumptions about large groups of people who I highly doubt are carbon copies of each other.
jaredhansen 9y ago
>The hoi polloi from 1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. Not just unfair/ungrounded, but incorrect as a matter of usage: "hoi polloi"[0] means the exact opposite of what you're using it to mean. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoi_polloi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoi_polloi
- DoreenMichele 9y ago
  Yup, I took Greek in college. I am well aware that it originally meant the people and has come to mean the exact opposite -- the high falutin types. My Greek professor covered that ironic history. The possibility for misunderstanding is part of why I usually avoid the expression. But I will leave it. I think people here know what I mean by it, and never mind the opening for pretending I don't have a point because we don't agree on this one term.
benjohnson 9y ago
>>1st world countries are unlikely to listen to uneducated 3rd world peasants. There's a balance - it's reasonable to think that the civilizations in the 1st world do have some expertise to offer.
Turing_Machine 9y ago
Sounds like a myth to me. People in houses without running water do, in fact, own bathtubs and do, in fact, take baths. I know, because I've been one of them.
- DoreenMichele 9y ago
  This is not about Appalachia per se. My recollection is this also occurred in Appalachia. That detail may be inaccurate and is not really terribly important to my point: http://www.christopherfowler.co.uk/blog/2016/10/15/ps-more-on-the-working-class-people/ http://www.christopherfowler.co.uk/blog/2016/10/15/ps-more-o... There has been talk about coals being kept in the bath. I know how that story began. In the East End of London, 25 years ago, some well-intentioned people built houses for the working classes and put in baths. The baths were put in the scullery, and had neither a water supply nor a waste pipe. The rents were very high, and the tenants found it necessary to let some of the rooms, and as in those circumstances the fixed bath was found to be more trouble than a portable bath, and as there was no adequate coal cellar, the bath was used as a coal store. Why give baths to miners? Why give baths to agricultural labourers? They will put coals in the baths.” Why does any woman put coals in the bath? Because she has not been provided with a coal cellar. So long as you are not willing to give her a coal cellar, it is a proper form of protest to go on putting coals in the bath.”
jlebrech 9y ago
build one, iterate. the local knowledge will come.