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Food has definitely gotten worse but the nutritional recommendations haven't really changed much.

cies 9y ago
Is dairy still in? I think it used to be, but is on the way out in most places due to the mountain of evidence proving it makes us sick. Processed meat is since a few years on the carcinogens lists (next to asbestos and smoking). But strange enough still on the hospital menus (also consumed by cancer patients)! It takes a while I guess... Sadly.
- DanBC 9y ago
  > carcinogens lists (next to asbestos and smoking). The quality of the evidence that processed red meat causes cancer is now as good as the evidence that smoking causes cancer. The strength of the effect is very very different. Smoking causes a lot of cancer. Red meat causes very little cancer. It's completely incorrect to suggest red meat is equivalent to smoking for cancer.
  - cies 9y ago
    > It's completely incorrect to suggest red meat is equivalent to smoking for cancer. Did I? Please read again. Just saying it's on the same list. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/kno... > Red meat causes very little cancer. Could you please quantify how little cancer? Prolly not. This is difficult stuff. We do not know dosages, etc. BTW, I was talking about "processed meat" (like hotdogs, bacon and nuggets), you now talk about red meat. Red meat is not on the cancer list (yet). If you down voted me, please reconsider. Because I'm right.
  - LinuxBender 9y ago
    There may be some tiny amount of truth to this. Red meats contain more L-Glutamine which is required for muscle growth. It is the most abundant amino acid in our body. That said, taking more of it will also feed tumors by increasing the production of HGH. An extreme example of this is performance athletes that take human growth hormone. Those with tumors meet their demise rather quickly because their body did not have time to terminate the cells, or could not keep up with the growth rate. This is of course an extreme example. Red meats only contain enough L-Glutamine to increase your HGH on a much smaller scale.
- Tharkun 9y ago
  You can pry my cheese from my cold, dead hands. Most hardish cheeses are low in lactose and high in all kinds of good stuff. And fat.

cies 9y ago

Is dairy still in? I think it used to be, but is on the way out in most places due to the mountain of evidence proving it makes us sick. Processed meat is since a few years on the carcinogens lists (next to asbestos and smoking). But strange enough still on the hospital menus (also consumed by cancer patients)! It takes a while I guess... Sadly.

DanBC 9y ago
> carcinogens lists (next to asbestos and smoking). The quality of the evidence that processed red meat causes cancer is now as good as the evidence that smoking causes cancer. The strength of the effect is very very different. Smoking causes a lot of cancer. Red meat causes very little cancer. It's completely incorrect to suggest red meat is equivalent to smoking for cancer.
- cies 9y ago
  > It's completely incorrect to suggest red meat is equivalent to smoking for cancer. Did I? Please read again. Just saying it's on the same list. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens.html https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/kno... > Red meat causes very little cancer. Could you please quantify how little cancer? Prolly not. This is difficult stuff. We do not know dosages, etc. BTW, I was talking about "processed meat" (like hotdogs, bacon and nuggets), you now talk about red meat. Red meat is not on the cancer list (yet). If you down voted me, please reconsider. Because I'm right.
- LinuxBender 9y ago
  There may be some tiny amount of truth to this. Red meats contain more L-Glutamine which is required for muscle growth. It is the most abundant amino acid in our body. That said, taking more of it will also feed tumors by increasing the production of HGH. An extreme example of this is performance athletes that take human growth hormone. Those with tumors meet their demise rather quickly because their body did not have time to terminate the cells, or could not keep up with the growth rate. This is of course an extreme example. Red meats only contain enough L-Glutamine to increase your HGH on a much smaller scale.
Tharkun 9y ago
You can pry my cheese from my cold, dead hands. Most hardish cheeses are low in lactose and high in all kinds of good stuff. And fat.