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Define "gently", because that doesn't seems like a term that goes well with enforcement, which contains the root "force".

greglindahl 9y ago
The definition has already been given in the other comments in this discussion about how the community prefers enforcement to be done.
- sametmax 9y ago
  No it hasn't. That's not enforcement. The community choose not to enforce. "gently" has nothing to do with it. I get that this is a preference, and they make the software and choose the licence so this is their choice. But that's not enforcement. It basically means you can do whatever you want with it. And hence people do. The system works because a few are giving away a lot while most benefit from it with taking without giving back anything. This is why everything is behind an API paywall now. This is why XMPP is getting shut down. This is why IMAP is being replaced by proprietary front ends. Why we have DRM in HTML5. Why TiVo did what it did. Because, well, we let them.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    This is why everything is behind an API paywall now. This is why XMPP is getting shut down. This is why IMAP is being replaced by proprietary front ends. Why we have DRM in HTML5. Why TiVo did what it did. In what way would a vigorous enforcement of the GPL prevent any of that? The only even remotely related to the GPL is TiVo, and even then it wasn't lack of enforcement, the version of the license simply didn't prevent it, hence GPLv3.
julienfr112 9y ago
oxymoron, right ? like a benevolent punishment, a liberating constrain ... Come on, we are in the same boat here, we agree Linux (and Wikipedia and ...) are amazing things. And we all admire and cheer the contributors and so on. Don't be mad when we point a small incoherence. It's like opening an issue, close it if you have a large support of the community, but please, spend 5 minutes thinking about it from a new point a view.

greglindahl 9y ago

The definition has already been given in the other comments in this discussion about how the community prefers enforcement to be done.

sametmax 9y ago
No it hasn't. That's not enforcement. The community choose not to enforce. "gently" has nothing to do with it. I get that this is a preference, and they make the software and choose the licence so this is their choice. But that's not enforcement. It basically means you can do whatever you want with it. And hence people do. The system works because a few are giving away a lot while most benefit from it with taking without giving back anything. This is why everything is behind an API paywall now. This is why XMPP is getting shut down. This is why IMAP is being replaced by proprietary front ends. Why we have DRM in HTML5. Why TiVo did what it did. Because, well, we let them.
- icebraining 9y ago
  This is why everything is behind an API paywall now. This is why XMPP is getting shut down. This is why IMAP is being replaced by proprietary front ends. Why we have DRM in HTML5. Why TiVo did what it did. In what way would a vigorous enforcement of the GPL prevent any of that? The only even remotely related to the GPL is TiVo, and even then it wasn't lack of enforcement, the version of the license simply didn't prevent it, hence GPLv3.

julienfr112 9y ago

oxymoron, right ? like a benevolent punishment, a liberating constrain ... Come on, we are in the same boat here, we agree Linux (and Wikipedia and ...) are amazing things. And we all admire and cheer the contributors and so on. Don't be mad when we point a small incoherence. It's like opening an issue, close it if you have a large support of the community, but please, spend 5 minutes thinking about it from a new point a view.