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> they are responsible for the death of others Are they? Those others knowingly and voluntarily took those drugs.

by skookumchuck 9y ago

toomuchtodo 9y ago
Addiction is not voluntary.
- scurvy 9y ago
  Addiction is a possible effect of willingly taking drugs (as the person before you was stating). I'm not saying that people don't have demons and everyone has their own way of coping, but you need to take drugs to be addicted. That first step is taken willfully.
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- stordoff 9y ago
  Addiction is not voluntary, but addiction is a known, likely side-effect of many drugs. That first step is, to a large extent, voluntary (in most cases).
- ajmurmann 9y ago
  Funny enough, if I buy heroin on a street corner, the addiction is voluntary. If I get prescribed opioids and the doctor who I trust ensures me it's the right thing on my situation, I wouldn't call all cases "voluntary addiction". Edit: I can buy a damn gun when I'm 18, but have to be 21 to drink beer and will never be allowed to buy LSD which is pretty safe and not addictive. WTF?! I blame religion and Puritan nut jobs.
- skookumchuck 9y ago
  Many addicts have overcome their addiction. As far as I know, none of them succeeded by blaming others. They succeeded by taking responsibility.
- thrownaway954 9y ago
  Sorry... but you're wrong. There are NA, AA, CA, CMA, HA and every other support group with an "A" you can think of that will help you in every step of the way, all you have to do is ask. If you want to get clean, you can and will get clean. Will it be a struggle? Sure it will, it will be the worst thing you will ever go through in your life, but you can and will get clean if you desperately want to. Yes... I went through it, and, yes it sucked, but I'm over 2 years, so, Yes, it can be done. Bottom line is there are two people who I see who don't want to get clean: 1) the people that will never accept responsibility and want to blame everyone else for their problems. 2) the people who really don't have a desire or want to get clean. At least the second group is being honest with themselves and everyone else.

> they are responsible for the death of others Are they? Those others knowingly and voluntarily took those drugs.

toomuchtodo 9y ago

Addiction is not voluntary.

scurvy 9y ago
Addiction is a possible effect of willingly taking drugs (as the person before you was stating). I'm not saying that people don't have demons and everyone has their own way of coping, but you need to take drugs to be addicted. That first step is taken willfully.
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stordoff 9y ago
Addiction is not voluntary, but addiction is a known, likely side-effect of many drugs. That first step is, to a large extent, voluntary (in most cases).
ajmurmann 9y ago
Funny enough, if I buy heroin on a street corner, the addiction is voluntary. If I get prescribed opioids and the doctor who I trust ensures me it's the right thing on my situation, I wouldn't call all cases "voluntary addiction". Edit: I can buy a damn gun when I'm 18, but have to be 21 to drink beer and will never be allowed to buy LSD which is pretty safe and not addictive. WTF?! I blame religion and Puritan nut jobs.
skookumchuck 9y ago
Many addicts have overcome their addiction. As far as I know, none of them succeeded by blaming others. They succeeded by taking responsibility.
thrownaway954 9y ago
Sorry... but you're wrong. There are NA, AA, CA, CMA, HA and every other support group with an "A" you can think of that will help you in every step of the way, all you have to do is ask. If you want to get clean, you can and will get clean. Will it be a struggle? Sure it will, it will be the worst thing you will ever go through in your life, but you can and will get clean if you desperately want to. Yes... I went through it, and, yes it sucked, but I'm over 2 years, so, Yes, it can be done. Bottom line is there are two people who I see who don't want to get clean: 1) the people that will never accept responsibility and want to blame everyone else for their problems. 2) the people who really don't have a desire or want to get clean. At least the second group is being honest with themselves and everyone else.