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A good example of the rearranging is from Nerdwriters YouTube https://youtu.be/Gksxu-yeWcU https://youtu.be/Gksxu-yeWcU Just a minor change in order of the sam

A good example of the rearranging is from Nerdwriters YouTube https://youtu.be/Gksxu-yeWcU https://youtu.be/Gksxu-yeWcU Just a minor change in order of the same scenes completely changed a movie.

apo 9y ago
That was one of the best film critiques I've ever seen. I especially like the fact that: - the original movie was explained because I had never heard of it; and - a short version of the re-edited movie was spliced together so that you could see what the author had in mind. Overall, this is a compelling demonstration of how simply changing the order in which the viewer gets information can make a so-so story great. Also, it makes me want to see both Passengers (even though it's supposed to be predictable) and Solaris (because it's not supposed to be).
- aequitas 9y ago
  Same, I hadn't seen the movie either. I've picked up a lot of good movies lately via similar film analysing youtubers. Even though it sometimes spoils some movies, it makes others great to watch because you can appreciate the 'science behind the rainbow' even if the rainbow is not to great to look at nowadays.
chrisweekly 9y ago
Christopher Nolan's "Following" and "Memento" come to mind as interesting, artistically succesful films in which scenes' chronological order bear non-obvious relation to their sequence. Wonder if anyone's mapped the chronological structure of fhe scenes. Bet there'd be an interesting shape there.
snowwrestler 9y ago
I attended a screening of Passengers that was followed by a QA with the writer afterward, and it was pretty uncomfortable at times. He said he wrote the movie because he really wanted to explore the idea that sometimes people choose love even when it has hurt them--he used the example of people who get cheated on, yet stay with their partner and work it out. But it became clear that he was so interested in this aspect of the movie that he just could not get perspective on the central violation of Jennifer Lawrence's character, which is truly horrific. Being awoken early, to spend your entire life on a spaceship you can't escape, by someone who wants to have sex with you... that's some pretty clear callouts to core human fears like slavery, claustrophobia, rape, etc. A plot device that was just supposed to be an obstacle to love, is totally overpowering. Based on the questions, a lot of the audience couldn't get over it, me included, so the happy ending just felt forced, hollow, and unbelievable. I take Passengers as a great example of why it might be good sometimes for studios to bring in someone new to rewrite a script. I think any good writer, coming to that script cold, would recognize the power of the core horror and start from there. Passengers spent a while high on "The Black List," which is a consensus list of the best unproduced scripts in Hollywood. I wonder if that put the writer in a position to maintain more than the usual amount of control for a spec script.

A good example of the rearranging is from Nerdwriters YouTube https://youtu.be/Gksxu-yeWcU https://youtu.be/Gksxu-yeWcU Just a minor change in order of the same scenes completely changed a movie.

apo 9y ago

That was one of the best film critiques I've ever seen. I especially like the fact that: - the original movie was explained because I had never heard of it; and - a short version of the re-edited movie was spliced together so that you could see what the author had in mind. Overall, this is a compelling demonstration of how simply changing the order in which the viewer gets information can make a so-so story great. Also, it makes me want to see both Passengers (even though it's supposed to be predictable) and Solaris (because it's not supposed to be).

aequitas 9y ago
Same, I hadn't seen the movie either. I've picked up a lot of good movies lately via similar film analysing youtubers. Even though it sometimes spoils some movies, it makes others great to watch because you can appreciate the 'science behind the rainbow' even if the rainbow is not to great to look at nowadays.

chrisweekly 9y ago

Christopher Nolan's "Following" and "Memento" come to mind as interesting, artistically succesful films in which scenes' chronological order bear non-obvious relation to their sequence. Wonder if anyone's mapped the chronological structure of fhe scenes. Bet there'd be an interesting shape there.

snowwrestler 9y ago

I attended a screening of Passengers that was followed by a QA with the writer afterward, and it was pretty uncomfortable at times. He said he wrote the movie because he really wanted to explore the idea that sometimes people choose love even when it has hurt them--he used the example of people who get cheated on, yet stay with their partner and work it out. But it became clear that he was so interested in this aspect of the movie that he just could not get perspective on the central violation of Jennifer Lawrence's character, which is truly horrific. Being awoken early, to spend your entire life on a spaceship you can't escape, by someone who wants to have sex with you... that's some pretty clear callouts to core human fears like slavery, claustrophobia, rape, etc. A plot device that was just supposed to be an obstacle to love, is totally overpowering. Based on the questions, a lot of the audience couldn't get over it, me included, so the happy ending just felt forced, hollow, and unbelievable. I take Passengers as a great example of why it might be good sometimes for studios to bring in someone new to rewrite a script. I think any good writer, coming to that script cold, would recognize the power of the core horror and start from there. Passengers spent a while high on "The Black List," which is a consensus list of the best unproduced scripts in Hollywood. I wonder if that put the writer in a position to maintain more than the usual amount of control for a spec script.