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One thing I miss from Italy are real shutters: https://blog.therealitaly.com/2007/08/09/window-technology/ https://blog.therealitaly.com/2007/08/09/window-tech

by davidw 9y ago

One thing I miss from Italy are real shutters: https://blog.therealitaly.com/2007/08/09/window-technology/ https://blog.therealitaly.com/2007/08/09/window-technology/

r00fus 9y ago
We got "blackout curtains". Relatively easy to install and is 95% darker than blinds.
- hocuspocus 9y ago
  The first result on Google search points to Ikea Marjun curtains, I bought those when I lived in Berlin and I guarantee you that it was impossible to get my bedroom really dark. On the other hand with proper outdoor shutters or roller blinds[0] you can easily get a room pitch-black. [0] https://www.schenk-sonnenschutztechnik.de/uploads/tx_frsupersized/rollladen-intego-schenk-sonnenschutztechnik-1-1600.jpg https://www.schenk-sonnenschutztechnik.de/uploads/tx_frsuper...
- trendia 9y ago
  European shutters are pretty nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KePLmie7lE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KePLmie7lE
  - weinzierl 9y ago
    The type shown in the video is pretty common in Germany and besides its ability to make a room pitch black it also provides a decent protection against burglary. Many, if not most of these shutters are certified for resistance class RC2 according to DIN EN 1627. The title of the video is wrong, by the way. It is not Rouladen, which would be a dish of filled rolled meat, but Rollladen. Rollladen is literally rolling shutter and it is really written with three l in a row.
    - davidw 9y ago
      In Italy they're "tapparelle", and I think they're a fantastic thing to have for your house. With even mediocre ones you can get a room really dark even if it's pretty light outside.
fyfy18 9y ago
They are fairly common throughout most of Central Europe. I stayed in apartment a few years ago that had electric shutters; it felt like I was living on a space ship.
- weinzierl 9y ago
  The Dutch are known for not owning curtains [1]. I don't know if they have shutters though. [1] https://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2010/11/24/no-8-not-owning-curtains/ https://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2010/11/24/no-8-not-owning-...
  - Symbiote 9y ago
    The same in Denmark, but in my experience people still have curtains in the bedroom. It would be difficult to sleep (especially for children) in the summer without them.
tincholio 9y ago
I grew up sleeping in pitch black darkness, and having lived now for a while in the Nordics, where summer nights are light and curtains are mediocre at best, I can share that feeling. I wonder if the higher rates of depression here may have something to do with this (interestingly, I remember reading somewhere that suicides in the Nordics peak in Springtime).
- syrkis 9y ago
  Second that! Curtains in Copenhagen don't blind, they blur. I think part of the reason for the spike in suicide in springtime is the hope that "things-will-be-better-in-the-light" being broken. The third monday of January has a spike in suicide as well, on account of the New Year not bring the prosperity that the excitement of december had you believe. Psychiatrists supposedly call that day blue monday.
- kwhitefoot 9y ago
  I've lived in Norway (40 km south of Oslo for the last 32 years, generally with only light curtains. Not noticed any tendency to depression or difficulty sleeping in myself or my family. Mind you, most hotels here that expect foreign guests have blackout blinds or at least very heavy curtains,
  - tincholio 9y ago
    My first Summer in Finland, I was renting an apartment with crappy curtains. I was dead tired through May, until I broke down and duct-taped large trash bags to the windows. The difference in sleep quality was nothing short of amazing. I have blackout curtains nowadays, and I've also gotten used to the light somewhat, but I still miss proper rolling curtains that completely shut the light out.

by davidw 9y ago

One thing I miss from Italy are real shutters: https://blog.therealitaly.com/2007/08/09/window-technology/ https://blog.therealitaly.com/2007/08/09/window-technology/

r00fus 9y ago

We got "blackout curtains". Relatively easy to install and is 95% darker than blinds.

hocuspocus 9y ago
The first result on Google search points to Ikea Marjun curtains, I bought those when I lived in Berlin and I guarantee you that it was impossible to get my bedroom really dark. On the other hand with proper outdoor shutters or roller blinds[0] you can easily get a room pitch-black. [0] https://www.schenk-sonnenschutztechnik.de/uploads/tx_frsupersized/rollladen-intego-schenk-sonnenschutztechnik-1-1600.jpg https://www.schenk-sonnenschutztechnik.de/uploads/tx_frsuper...
trendia 9y ago
European shutters are pretty nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KePLmie7lE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KePLmie7lE
- weinzierl 9y ago
  The type shown in the video is pretty common in Germany and besides its ability to make a room pitch black it also provides a decent protection against burglary. Many, if not most of these shutters are certified for resistance class RC2 according to DIN EN 1627. The title of the video is wrong, by the way. It is not Rouladen, which would be a dish of filled rolled meat, but Rollladen. Rollladen is literally rolling shutter and it is really written with three l in a row.
  - davidw 9y ago
    In Italy they're "tapparelle", and I think they're a fantastic thing to have for your house. With even mediocre ones you can get a room really dark even if it's pretty light outside.

fyfy18 9y ago

They are fairly common throughout most of Central Europe. I stayed in apartment a few years ago that had electric shutters; it felt like I was living on a space ship.

weinzierl 9y ago
The Dutch are known for not owning curtains [1]. I don't know if they have shutters though. [1] https://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2010/11/24/no-8-not-owning-curtains/ https://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/2010/11/24/no-8-not-owning-...
- Symbiote 9y ago
  The same in Denmark, but in my experience people still have curtains in the bedroom. It would be difficult to sleep (especially for children) in the summer without them.

tincholio 9y ago

I grew up sleeping in pitch black darkness, and having lived now for a while in the Nordics, where summer nights are light and curtains are mediocre at best, I can share that feeling. I wonder if the higher rates of depression here may have something to do with this (interestingly, I remember reading somewhere that suicides in the Nordics peak in Springtime).

syrkis 9y ago
Second that! Curtains in Copenhagen don't blind, they blur. I think part of the reason for the spike in suicide in springtime is the hope that "things-will-be-better-in-the-light" being broken. The third monday of January has a spike in suicide as well, on account of the New Year not bring the prosperity that the excitement of december had you believe. Psychiatrists supposedly call that day blue monday.
kwhitefoot 9y ago
I've lived in Norway (40 km south of Oslo for the last 32 years, generally with only light curtains. Not noticed any tendency to depression or difficulty sleeping in myself or my family. Mind you, most hotels here that expect foreign guests have blackout blinds or at least very heavy curtains,
- tincholio 9y ago
  My first Summer in Finland, I was renting an apartment with crappy curtains. I was dead tired through May, until I broke down and duct-taped large trash bags to the windows. The difference in sleep quality was nothing short of amazing. I have blackout curtains nowadays, and I've also gotten used to the light somewhat, but I still miss proper rolling curtains that completely shut the light out.