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I think a lot of studies like this are just wrong. When I was a kid, I couldn't sleep without a light on because I'd get depressed. So later on in life if I did

by homero 9y ago

I think a lot of studies like this are just wrong. When I was a kid, I couldn't sleep without a light on because I'd get depressed. So later on in life if I didn't remember that, I'd think that I just had a light on and now I'm depressed. I think depressed people like a little light. Much like they say red meat causes cancer, I don't think it's the red meat. I think it's how it's cooked. Red meat is usually barbecued and that char is what could be causing the cancer.

boomboomsubban 9y ago
>So later on in life if I didn't remember that, I'd think that I just had a light on and now I'm depressed. What? Anyway, this study has strict definitions of what "depression" is, and I doubt whatever you felt as a child would qualify. >Much like they say red meat causes cancer, I don't think it's the red meat. I think it's how it's cooked. Red meat is usually barbecued and that char is what could be causing the cancer. They say eating red meat may cause cancer. Even if your guess is true, they would still be right as red meat is often barbecued. And as a larger point, thinking something like this is true doesn't matter until you get evidence for it.
- justtopointout 9y ago
  > What? Anyway, this study has strict definitions of what "depression" is, and I doubt whatever you felt as a child would qualify. Because children don't get depressed? Why would you doubt what they felt would qualify clinically?
- homero 9y ago
  If I didn't remember why I wanted light on. They would be right about red meat but the point would be lost if people begin switching to bbqing chicken and still get cancer.
  - boomboomsubban 9y ago
    I still think you're confusing whatever feelings you felt with clinical depression. >They would be right about red meat but the point would be lost if people begin switching to bbqing chicken and still get cancer. The study was showing a link they found, they weren't giving a diet recommendation. But, it would only be lost if your guess was correct and everybody that made the switch barbecued as much chicken as they did beef. Otherwise, fewer people would develop cancer than if the scientific study had not been published.
harlanji 9y ago
Maybe a bit OT, but my understanding of meat causing cancer is that if you don’t eat enough fiber to clear out the intestinal sludge then it harbors the conditions for cancerous cells to come about. I need to follow up on that more. Even more OT, but it’s irrelevant now as I took a break from meat a year ago after my Plated boxes piled up over the holidays and I couldn’t eat it fast enough . I noticed how supple my body was after a while and got to questioning the food industry and finding too many answers related to my health that I didn’t like. Eating enough seasonal fruit is beneficial in any case, the water clears out toxins. Good point about meat char, seems minimal compared to gunk buildup from an overall health perspective. I dunno if we really thrive as meat eaters anyway, given my health then and now.
jk2323 9y ago
"Much like they say red meat causes cancer, I don't think it's the red meat." Try thinking again: http://www.yourstylishlife.com/german-nobel-laureate-shocked-the-public-cancer-is-caused-by-an-unknown-virus-found-in-beef-and-cows-milk-here-is-why/ http://www.yourstylishlife.com/german-nobel-laureate-shocked...
Sohakes 9y ago
I kind of agree about the light. Everyone I know that needs some light on during the night needs it because of some problem. Either the person is afraid of being in total dark, which is a sign of anxiety and is associated with depression, or have some other problem. I don't like sleeping with the lights on, but it became a necessity because I have frequent sleep terrors where I wake up confused in the middle of my room. A light helps me understand what's happening and where I am faster, and I don't collide into things as much. Sleep terrors are associated with some mental problems, so there would be a correlation between mental problems and the fact that people have the lights on too (considering I'm not the only one who does that), but both things are not causally connected.
Nomentatus 9y ago
If the light is red, that's fine. Doesn't trigger ipRGCs.

by homero 9y ago

boomboomsubban 9y ago

>So later on in life if I didn't remember that, I'd think that I just had a light on and now I'm depressed. What? Anyway, this study has strict definitions of what "depression" is, and I doubt whatever you felt as a child would qualify. >Much like they say red meat causes cancer, I don't think it's the red meat. I think it's how it's cooked. Red meat is usually barbecued and that char is what could be causing the cancer. They say eating red meat may cause cancer. Even if your guess is true, they would still be right as red meat is often barbecued. And as a larger point, thinking something like this is true doesn't matter until you get evidence for it.

justtopointout 9y ago
> What? Anyway, this study has strict definitions of what "depression" is, and I doubt whatever you felt as a child would qualify. Because children don't get depressed? Why would you doubt what they felt would qualify clinically?
homero 9y ago
If I didn't remember why I wanted light on. They would be right about red meat but the point would be lost if people begin switching to bbqing chicken and still get cancer.
- boomboomsubban 9y ago
  I still think you're confusing whatever feelings you felt with clinical depression. >They would be right about red meat but the point would be lost if people begin switching to bbqing chicken and still get cancer. The study was showing a link they found, they weren't giving a diet recommendation. But, it would only be lost if your guess was correct and everybody that made the switch barbecued as much chicken as they did beef. Otherwise, fewer people would develop cancer than if the scientific study had not been published.

harlanji 9y ago

Maybe a bit OT, but my understanding of meat causing cancer is that if you don’t eat enough fiber to clear out the intestinal sludge then it harbors the conditions for cancerous cells to come about. I need to follow up on that more. Even more OT, but it’s irrelevant now as I took a break from meat a year ago after my Plated boxes piled up over the holidays and I couldn’t eat it fast enough . I noticed how supple my body was after a while and got to questioning the food industry and finding too many answers related to my health that I didn’t like. Eating enough seasonal fruit is beneficial in any case, the water clears out toxins. Good point about meat char, seems minimal compared to gunk buildup from an overall health perspective. I dunno if we really thrive as meat eaters anyway, given my health then and now.

jk2323 9y ago

"Much like they say red meat causes cancer, I don't think it's the red meat." Try thinking again: http://www.yourstylishlife.com/german-nobel-laureate-shocked-the-public-cancer-is-caused-by-an-unknown-virus-found-in-beef-and-cows-milk-here-is-why/ http://www.yourstylishlife.com/german-nobel-laureate-shocked...

Sohakes 9y ago

I kind of agree about the light. Everyone I know that needs some light on during the night needs it because of some problem. Either the person is afraid of being in total dark, which is a sign of anxiety and is associated with depression, or have some other problem. I don't like sleeping with the lights on, but it became a necessity because I have frequent sleep terrors where I wake up confused in the middle of my room. A light helps me understand what's happening and where I am faster, and I don't collide into things as much. Sleep terrors are associated with some mental problems, so there would be a correlation between mental problems and the fact that people have the lights on too (considering I'm not the only one who does that), but both things are not causally connected.

Nomentatus 9y ago

If the light is red, that's fine. Doesn't trigger ipRGCs.