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>First, dumping cheap labor and goods into a country has a very real impact on poor and working class people Yup. It keeps inflation in check, and allows them
by cjalmeida 9y ago
>First, dumping cheap labor and goods into a country has a very real impact on poor and working class people
Yup. It keeps inflation in check, and allows them to buy more stuff with their salary, including investing into improving their education and don't actually having to work on low paying jobs.
Sometimes I wonder if David Ricardo was from Mars.
- crdoconnor 9y ago>Yup. It keeps inflation in check, and allows them to buy more stuff with their salary Cheap labor keeps inflation in check by keeping the salaries low. The upper middle and upper classes reap those benefits, not the people whose salaries were kept low. Repressing lower-middle class and working class salaries low to keep inflation in check is how you end up with Brexit, Trump, Le Pen, Golden Dawn, etc. This is a global phenomenon.
- cjalmeida 9y agoMost of those low paying jobs are taken by immigrants, who are happy to do them given the alternative. Natives, supposedly with better education and jobs, reap the benefits. It's a win-win situation. You don't need to be posh to benefit from migrants cheaply building your home, cleaning your bathroom, or taking care of the children and the elders.
- Spooky23 9y agoIt's a win win for the shrinking middle-class and expanding rich class. Not so good for the proles. In America, the options for these folks are basically disability, jail (for men) or being a state supported baby machine. We also offer opiates to help.
- cjalmeida 9y agoVisit any 3rd world country to know what being a real prole means. I have a hard time being sympathetic to folks that were born in a stable an generally safe country, with access to decent (if not prime) education. And all they care during their school years is girls and pot/meth. Than they blame their unemployment on piss poor migrants that can't even speak the language, or asians that studied their asses off with the little they could make. There are good people becoming unemployed due to tech advances. The solution is having them learn new trades - not expelling migrants so they can clean bathrooms for $15/h
- Spooky23 9y agoYou should try out empathy sometime. You are adopting a thought process that is the equivalent of my grandma yelling at me to eat my broccoli because children are starving in Ethiopia. Like it or not, representative governments are supposed to represent their countrymen. While the plight of the 3rd world is awful in many ways, I’ll assure you that the policy positions have nothing to do with people seeking a better life.
- cjalmeida 9y agoYour grandma was right.
- random_rr 9y agoDude...
- CJefferson 9y agoLots of my family used to clean bathrooms and take care of children. Now it's hard to even get paid minimum wage to do those jobs (which is illegal, bit immigrants and the people who pay them often don't care).
- hueving 9y agoBut you have to be skilled enough for a middle-class job.
- crdoconnor 9y ago>Natives, supposedly with better education and jobs, reap the benefits. Natives who were more educated did reap the benefits and they don't want to roll things back to how they were in 2003 when slightly more expensive natives did those jobs. The educated upper middle classes are, however, a minority. >You don't need to be posh to benefit from migrants cheaply building your home, cleaning your bathroom, or taking care of the children Maybe not posh but you do need to be upper middle class. If you're actually doing those jobs you are not benefiting from your wages being suppressed.