4 ms·

I guess I'm all alone over here with my love of nano - yes, its not as powerful as emacs (or even vi) - but it works well enough for what I need a text editor f

by Aloha 9y ago

I guess I'm all alone over here with my love of nano - yes, its not as powerful as emacs (or even vi) - but it works well enough for what I need a text editor for.

cup-of-tea 9y ago
What do you need a text editor for?
- JustSomeNobody 9y ago
  Exactly! Just 'cat' everything to the file. Have a mistake? Up arrow and edit.
- Aloha 9y ago
  editing config files, writing shell scripts, editing some web stuff - nothing complex.
tombert 9y ago
I had a coworker (who I greatly respect as an engineer) whose main "IDE" was GNU Screen and Nano, which he used primarily for PHP and JS development. I wanted to make fun of him, but his code was generally better than me, despite me using Vim, so I had to keep it to myself.
- Aloha 9y ago
  This is basically my environment - everyone keeps trying to convince me to use tmux - but I look at it, and for my use case, it includes no additional features, and I'd need to relearn keyboard shortcuts.
  - tombert 9y ago
    I would think you could relatively easily remap the tmux shortcuts to Screen ones, if that's the only blocker.
    - Aloha 9y ago
      but what does tmux do that screen does not? I dont need split screen mode, for example.
      - tombert 9y ago
        Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't `screen` do split screen mode? `C-a S` I thought It's not night and day really; tmux is updated a bit more frequently, and I find it easier to configure (I have a custom theme that I think is substantially sexier than the ugly green bar on the bottom). While it's almost certainly cheating, I do think that the mouse integration for tmux is quite good, and I use that semi-often. I don't know how much you care about licenses, but tmux uses the more permissive ISC license. Also, and this really makes no difference to anything, I like the logo for tmux :) So, I dunno, it's mostly a matter of opinion, but I just have grown to prefer tmux.
sevensor 9y ago
Since we're plugging for minority editors, I'm going to do what I always do on editor threads and mention kakoune. Modal like vi, but with a different take on the paradigm, modern, embodies the "UNIX is your IDE" philosophy. Integrates in an unobtrusive way with tmux and X11 because window management is out of scope for the editor. Lets you attach multiple clients to the same session, supports multiple buffers. I'd used vi (and later vim) from 1997 to 2017, but kak won me over and I've been using it as my primary editor for over a year now.
- zafiro17 9y ago
  I find myself using JOE (Joe's Own Editor) more and more. I changed to it as a mental exercise to force myself to use it, but the movement keys make a lot of sense to me (I use Jstar mode, so it's the W-S-D-X cross) and it's friendly, stable, and deals with huge files really well. That said, I switch around lots of editors. I'm a plain text kind of person, so the ecosystem of Unix text editors means I'm permanently in my playground and will never get old.
- dannyobrien 9y ago
  After bouncing off emacs and org-mode, I’m enjoying re-acquainting myself with the Leo editor, an extendable outliner written in Python with some nice literate programming features (the editor itself is written in an outline), and acceptable vim emulation. http://leoeditor.com/ http://leoeditor.com/ pip install leo
  - BeetleB 9y ago
    I think the Leo editor is the only editor that can come close to Emacs in terms of power. However, the docs are just so, so bad. And the functionality out of the box leaves much to be desired. I couldn't find the keystroke to comment out lines of code. There were a few other changes in behavior that I wanted that I'm sure are trivial to fix in Leo via scripting, but things aren't documented. I really, really want Leo to become more popular - but until there are better tutorials and documentation, I don't think it will go anywhere. And I'm at the stage in life where I can't afford to spend too much time figuring Leo out - there are too many other high value things to learn.
draw_down 9y ago
I think nano is great for small use cases. I couldn't see using it every day, but I would absolutely take it over all the modal editors like emacs and vim which just strike me as ridiculous and vaguely user-hostile. It may be underpowered but at least I can understand nano. The others, forget it. Using them is almost like joining a cult.
mamcx 9y ago
Nano is great! It can also color syntax. If only have a way to code-completion...
kreetx 9y ago
You nano guys are literally crazy! I also have a coworker who uses nano for js development atm and he appears to love it. I guess in the end the plugins, the tools, the etc. don't mean as much as the person typing/thinking.

by Aloha 9y ago

I guess I'm all alone over here with my love of nano - yes, its not as powerful as emacs (or even vi) - but it works well enough for what I need a text editor for.

cup-of-tea 9y ago

What do you need a text editor for?

JustSomeNobody 9y ago
Exactly! Just 'cat' everything to the file. Have a mistake? Up arrow and edit.
Aloha 9y ago
editing config files, writing shell scripts, editing some web stuff - nothing complex.

tombert 9y ago

I had a coworker (who I greatly respect as an engineer) whose main "IDE" was GNU Screen and Nano, which he used primarily for PHP and JS development. I wanted to make fun of him, but his code was generally better than me, despite me using Vim, so I had to keep it to myself.

Aloha 9y ago
This is basically my environment - everyone keeps trying to convince me to use tmux - but I look at it, and for my use case, it includes no additional features, and I'd need to relearn keyboard shortcuts.
- tombert 9y ago
  I would think you could relatively easily remap the tmux shortcuts to Screen ones, if that's the only blocker.
  - Aloha 9y ago
    but what does tmux do that screen does not? I dont need split screen mode, for example.
    - tombert 9y ago
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't `screen` do split screen mode? `C-a S` I thought It's not night and day really; tmux is updated a bit more frequently, and I find it easier to configure (I have a custom theme that I think is substantially sexier than the ugly green bar on the bottom). While it's almost certainly cheating, I do think that the mouse integration for tmux is quite good, and I use that semi-often. I don't know how much you care about licenses, but tmux uses the more permissive ISC license. Also, and this really makes no difference to anything, I like the logo for tmux :) So, I dunno, it's mostly a matter of opinion, but I just have grown to prefer tmux.

sevensor 9y ago

Since we're plugging for minority editors, I'm going to do what I always do on editor threads and mention kakoune. Modal like vi, but with a different take on the paradigm, modern, embodies the "UNIX is your IDE" philosophy. Integrates in an unobtrusive way with tmux and X11 because window management is out of scope for the editor. Lets you attach multiple clients to the same session, supports multiple buffers. I'd used vi (and later vim) from 1997 to 2017, but kak won me over and I've been using it as my primary editor for over a year now.

zafiro17 9y ago
I find myself using JOE (Joe's Own Editor) more and more. I changed to it as a mental exercise to force myself to use it, but the movement keys make a lot of sense to me (I use Jstar mode, so it's the W-S-D-X cross) and it's friendly, stable, and deals with huge files really well. That said, I switch around lots of editors. I'm a plain text kind of person, so the ecosystem of Unix text editors means I'm permanently in my playground and will never get old.
dannyobrien 9y ago
After bouncing off emacs and org-mode, I’m enjoying re-acquainting myself with the Leo editor, an extendable outliner written in Python with some nice literate programming features (the editor itself is written in an outline), and acceptable vim emulation. http://leoeditor.com/ http://leoeditor.com/ pip install leo
- BeetleB 9y ago
  I think the Leo editor is the only editor that can come close to Emacs in terms of power. However, the docs are just so, so bad. And the functionality out of the box leaves much to be desired. I couldn't find the keystroke to comment out lines of code. There were a few other changes in behavior that I wanted that I'm sure are trivial to fix in Leo via scripting, but things aren't documented. I really, really want Leo to become more popular - but until there are better tutorials and documentation, I don't think it will go anywhere. And I'm at the stage in life where I can't afford to spend too much time figuring Leo out - there are too many other high value things to learn.

draw_down 9y ago

I think nano is great for small use cases. I couldn't see using it every day, but I would absolutely take it over all the modal editors like emacs and vim which just strike me as ridiculous and vaguely user-hostile. It may be underpowered but at least I can understand nano. The others, forget it. Using them is almost like joining a cult.

mamcx 9y ago

Nano is great! It can also color syntax. If only have a way to code-completion...

kreetx 9y ago

You nano guys are literally crazy! I also have a coworker who uses nano for js development atm and he appears to love it. I guess in the end the plugins, the tools, the etc. don't mean as much as the person typing/thinking.