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Again, HTTP had no ongoing cost, HTTPS has an ongoing cost

• heheocoenev 9y ago
  What ongoing cost? This is absurd. It’s $0, the automation is free, and the config is free. Stop spreading FUD.
• billpg 9y ago
  So I can stop paying those bills the web-hosting company keeps bugging me about?
  • Joeboy 9y ago
    Yes, you can host your own server and use your home internet connection. This is the whole issue really - the web was designed as a decentralized, anarchistic, read/write thing, and it's subsequently become a thing where it's increasingly difficult to participate unless you're doing so on a professional basis or relying on somebody else's professional services. Maybe this is just how it has to be, but for people who can remember a couple of decades back it's pretty depressing. (btw I've used LE both in my day jobs and for some personal stuff, and I very much appreciate its existence).
    • dwighttk 9y ago
      so I can stop paying those home internet connection bills that keep stacking up every month?
      • Joeboy 9y ago
        If you personally don't want to have an internet connection then I'm afraid it's going to be hard for you to run a webserver for free. I think this would be unusual though.
        • dwighttk 9y ago
          the point is that http isn't free of ongoing costs.
          • Joeboy 9y ago
            Are you paying for http on top of your internet connection costs?
            • dwighttk 9y ago
              I'd probably get a more expensive plan that had good upload speeds.
            • dwighttk 9y ago
              Or I might get free access from my library and they don't permit me to run a web-server.
• saagarjha 9y ago
  > HTTP had no ongoing cost If you consider constant warnings from most browsers that annoy your users and coming up with new excuses as to why you haven't moved to HTTPS as not being a cost…
  • Joeboy 9y ago
    That's an artificially induced cost, though. You are correct that I'm going to have to letsencrypt my blog if I want to people to be able to read it (I might just take it down). But I don't think the people are correct who are saying that a) there's any good inherent reason for me to do that and b) this will cost me no time or effort. I've done the LE thing before and, at least in my case, it's not a zero-effort thing.
    • thx4allthestuff 9y ago
      In this thread alone you've already expended more energy than it would have taken to just do the right thing with your blog.
      • Joeboy 9y ago
        This is incorrect - I won't go into details as I'm busy fixing my server and need to go out in a couple of hours.
• TheCoelacanth 9y ago
  HTTP has an enormous ongoing cost in the form of loss of security and privacy.