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About a year ago, a sales guy from SAS came to give a talk about Viya at our uni. They even brought a data scientist (whom I believe was actually a smart kid an
by Macuyiko 9y ago
About a year ago, a sales guy from SAS came to give a talk about Viya at our uni. They even brought a data scientist (whom I believe was actually a smart kid and feeling uneasy about being dragged into a sales pitch). Traditionally, SAS has pushed a lot of resources in the educational sector. Get them started young, and they'll be customers forever.
So anyway, the presentation includes showing off a Jupyter notebook and showing how you can easily use pandas to load in your data set, build a model (with Viya), and plot the results with matplotlib. Standard data science stuff, but distributed automagically thanks to Viya.
During the QA, I asked the following questions:
- So you are basically attempting the same as what Spark has done, and are just using R/Python/... as a client? Yes, but we're way more powerful, manageable, etc...
- Can I see the source code of your models, or build new ones myself? No... well maybe, you can write them in SAS base and call them.
- Can I at least export the model to something like PMML? Oh yes you can export (shows this off)... to SAS base code.
- Do you have GPU support for those fancy convolutional neural networks? No (although I've heard this has changed, though I would still put my trust more towards Tensorflow or Pytorch).
It kind of seems like a last attempt to get some new lock-in going. Even Apple's re-open sourcing of turi (https://github.com/apple/turicreate https://github.com/apple/turicreate) is more honest (and more powerful, actually).
I like SAS, they have some very smart people working there and some great consultants (PhD's, often), but there's too much sales going on. This is what killed IBM as well.
- fwn 9y ago> Traditionally, SAS has pushed a lot of resources in the educational sector. Get them started young, and they'll be customers forever. If that is the strategy I'm not entirely sure it is well implemented. The version available for windows using students requires running a virtualized linux in the background to access a browser based, sluggish IDE like interface. Compared to SAS, R and Python look like an usability dream.