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Pre-reveal non-owner reservation holder here. I suspect this will be unusual: between constant delays and consistent quality problems, I cancelled my reservatio

Pre-reveal non-owner reservation holder here. I suspect this will be unusual: between constant delays and consistent quality problems, I cancelled my reservation last week. I got a plug-in hybrid instead, for about the same price as the Model 3. I'm a huge believer in the tech and Musk's vision of the future. I learned I am not a believer in Musk-the-executor when it comes to cars.

RustGirl 9y ago
I'm very happy with my P90D, but when it was time to get a second electric car, we got a Chevy Bolt, which we're also very happy with. I don't like to order things that aren't shipping yet. There have been no quality issues or bugs with my Bolt. It's never been back to the dealer.
dnautics 9y ago
Musk has a long track record of delivering late (think how late falcon 9 heavy is, how late falcon 9 was)
- bsder 9y ago
  We call difficult things "rocket science" for a reason, you know ... so, not the most apt comparison. However, even if Tesla goes out of business because they can't scale up, I will be grateful to Musk for kicking the incumbents in the ass about electric cars. I suspect we wouldn't have the Leaf or Volt without Tesla (see: GM EV-1, for example).
  - dnautics 9y ago
    no doubt, but also the teslas were all released later than expected, too, IIRC.
  - Domenic_S 9y ago
    Nobody’s saying the work is easy, only that it is consistently late over and over (and he’s the one setting his own deadlines).
- Domenic_S 9y ago
  No doubt. Failing the same way a whole bunch of times with no course correction doesn’t give me confidence.
  - dnautics 9y ago
    actually my point was that he succeeds, but never on schedule. On should not expect anything on time from Elon Musk.
tardo99 9y ago
I got a used Nissan Leaf for $8000 and installed the Level 2 charging station that the seller threw in for free myself. Couldn't be happier. Also, that extra $30000-$100000k in my bank account (depending on the Tesla I didn't buy) feels good too.

RustGirl 9y ago

I'm very happy with my P90D, but when it was time to get a second electric car, we got a Chevy Bolt, which we're also very happy with. I don't like to order things that aren't shipping yet. There have been no quality issues or bugs with my Bolt. It's never been back to the dealer.

dnautics 9y ago

Musk has a long track record of delivering late (think how late falcon 9 heavy is, how late falcon 9 was)

bsder 9y ago
We call difficult things "rocket science" for a reason, you know ... so, not the most apt comparison. However, even if Tesla goes out of business because they can't scale up, I will be grateful to Musk for kicking the incumbents in the ass about electric cars. I suspect we wouldn't have the Leaf or Volt without Tesla (see: GM EV-1, for example).
- dnautics 9y ago
  no doubt, but also the teslas were all released later than expected, too, IIRC.
- Domenic_S 9y ago
  Nobody’s saying the work is easy, only that it is consistently late over and over (and he’s the one setting his own deadlines).
Domenic_S 9y ago
No doubt. Failing the same way a whole bunch of times with no course correction doesn’t give me confidence.
- dnautics 9y ago
  actually my point was that he succeeds, but never on schedule. On should not expect anything on time from Elon Musk.

tardo99 9y ago

I got a used Nissan Leaf for $8000 and installed the Level 2 charging station that the seller threw in for free myself. Couldn't be happier. Also, that extra $30000-$100000k in my bank account (depending on the Tesla I didn't buy) feels good too.