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If you have the money to buy a new iPhone and are considering a new smartphone, your range of options is effectively any smartphone device in the market. If yo

If you have the money to buy a new iPhone and are considering a new smartphone, your range of options is effectively any smartphone device in the market. If you're buying an Android device, you're statistically likely trying to save money and therefore a new iPhone isn't a realistic option. Thus, the range of options you consider tends to be Android-only unless your smartphone budget has changed significantly since the previous time you bought a phone. These points are worth considering when looking at the chart presented in the link.

ksk 9y ago
>If you have the money to buy a new iPhone and are considering a new smartphone, your range of options is effectively any smartphone device in the market. Not necessarily. 'having money' isn't the same as willing to over-pay. In the same vein 'saving money' could mean willing to pay an amount apropos to value of the goods.
- lurker_primo 9y ago
  I think they meant they have money that they are willing to pay for a new iphone. What is over-pay to you might be just-the-right-price for somebody else with different values.
wvenable 9y ago
I have a few friends with low phone budgets and in the past they've purchased low-cost Androids and been very dissatisfied with them. Their last purchase, a few months ago, was for iPhone 6's. Apple may only have high priced phones in the latest generation but iPhone's that are 4 generations back are still being sold (new) as the budget option.
guelo 9y ago
New iPhones start at $349. I think it's more about which ecosystem has the bigger lock in. I used to be locked into the Apple ecosystem and it was somewhat painful to extricate myself. What's interesting about Google's ecosystem is that I was locked into it even when I had an iPhone. And I can't imagine trying to extricate myself from Google, it would be even more painful. Now that I'm on Android the Google locked-in ecosystem is a bit smoother with things like Google Photos.
- tobinfricke 9y ago
  Yes, and new Android phones start as low as $30-$50. Example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EYT1URO/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EYT1URO/
- lucianmarin 9y ago
  $350 gets you a 6 years old phone design, an iPhone 5 with better internals. $700 gets you a 4 years old phone design, an iPhone 6 with better internals. $1000 gets you a brand new iPhone. I got a Sony XZ1 Compact for €500 and it works the same or better than an iPhone.
  - millstone 9y ago
    Out of curiosity what year design is the Sony XZ1 Compact?
    - endemic 9y ago
      It was released in 2017, although perhaps your comment is alluding to the (small) iterative design updates that Sony gives its phones. I wanted an XZ1 Compact due to USB Type-C and the plastic back, but settled for a Z5 Compact due to LineageOS support. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_XZ1_Compact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_XZ1_Compact
      - sekou 9y ago
        I've used mostly Android phones in the past I was trying to decide whether to get the Z5 Compact or finally try Apple with the iPhone SE. After nearly a year with my first iPhone I'm ready to switch back. How has your experience been with that phone?
  - nikanj 9y ago
    What is the iPhone 8, but an iPhone original with better internals? The design differences are negligible at best. The iPhone X is the first deviation from the basic design.
markcerqueira 9y ago
> If you're buying an Android device, you're statistically likely trying to save money and therefore a new iPhone isn't a realistic option. Disagree strongly. Yes, plenty of Android phones come in at lower price-points so they will be more appealing to people looking to save money when purchasing a smartphone. But calling this is "statistically likely" is a gross exaggeration of the situation.
- scarface74 9y ago
  How is it a gross exaggeration? The average selling price of an Android phone is $227. The ASP of an iPhone is $692. https://www.androidauthority.com/price-gap-samsung-apple-smartphones-769772/ https://www.androidauthority.com/price-gap-samsung-apple-sma... The fact is if your budget for a phone is $300. You're going to buy an Android. EDIT: The link above compares Apple and Samsung. The gap is even wider when you take all manufacturers into account. $691 - $215. http://fortune.com/2016/02/15/apple-android-asps/ http://fortune.com/2016/02/15/apple-android-asps/
- apendleton 9y ago
  I think by "statistically likely" they just mean "more than 50%," or, in other words, that lower-price-point Android phones outsell top-shelf ones. Given that upmarket they compete with the iPhone but downmarket they pretty much own the entire product space, this doesn't seem particularly unrealistic to me.
- askafriend 9y ago
  Like someone pointed out, there is significant data around this. I am not exaggerating in the slightest.
  - criley2 9y ago
    You're hiding behind bad statistics to basically ignore all high end android phones, Galaxy devices etc. You're pretending the entire high end android market is "negligible" by using such shoddy statistics to essentially claim "Android = Budget". We all know what you're doing when you make cheap, short comments which obscure context to push narrative. This is a very similar situation to people who use averages because medians don't tell the narrative they want. You have a narrative, and you have damned statistics, so reality doesn't really get in your way.
jonjojr 9y ago
other things to consider is the fact that for a run of the mill Android the insurance cost is significantly less and the deductible in some cases $100 compared to the $250 for an iPhone. Those who realized that the first time around would reconsider buying an Android as their next phone. Apple is not innovating as they used to in their phone and so Android is quickly closing the gap, which makes them financially speaking more viable option.
- scarface74 9y ago
  For the run of the mill Android phone, why buy insurance at all? My teenage son is always breaking phones. We haven't allowed him to get a phone (with his allowance) that costs more than $100. I'm very impressed with the $100 Moto G.
DannyB2 9y ago
Flagship Android phones are at about $1,000. Android users might just like the ecosystem better. There are rational reasons for that. Just like some people prefer Apple's ecosystem.
- mcphage 9y ago
  > Flagship Android phones are at about $1,000. I wonder how the loyalty levels vary by phone price?

ksk 9y ago

>If you have the money to buy a new iPhone and are considering a new smartphone, your range of options is effectively any smartphone device in the market. Not necessarily. 'having money' isn't the same as willing to over-pay. In the same vein 'saving money' could mean willing to pay an amount apropos to value of the goods.

lurker_primo 9y ago
I think they meant they have money that they are willing to pay for a new iphone. What is over-pay to you might be just-the-right-price for somebody else with different values.

wvenable 9y ago

I have a few friends with low phone budgets and in the past they've purchased low-cost Androids and been very dissatisfied with them. Their last purchase, a few months ago, was for iPhone 6's. Apple may only have high priced phones in the latest generation but iPhone's that are 4 generations back are still being sold (new) as the budget option.

guelo 9y ago

New iPhones start at $349. I think it's more about which ecosystem has the bigger lock in. I used to be locked into the Apple ecosystem and it was somewhat painful to extricate myself. What's interesting about Google's ecosystem is that I was locked into it even when I had an iPhone. And I can't imagine trying to extricate myself from Google, it would be even more painful. Now that I'm on Android the Google locked-in ecosystem is a bit smoother with things like Google Photos.

tobinfricke 9y ago
Yes, and new Android phones start as low as $30-$50. Example: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EYT1URO/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EYT1URO/
lucianmarin 9y ago
$350 gets you a 6 years old phone design, an iPhone 5 with better internals. $700 gets you a 4 years old phone design, an iPhone 6 with better internals. $1000 gets you a brand new iPhone. I got a Sony XZ1 Compact for €500 and it works the same or better than an iPhone.
- millstone 9y ago
  Out of curiosity what year design is the Sony XZ1 Compact?
  - endemic 9y ago
    It was released in 2017, although perhaps your comment is alluding to the (small) iterative design updates that Sony gives its phones. I wanted an XZ1 Compact due to USB Type-C and the plastic back, but settled for a Z5 Compact due to LineageOS support. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_XZ1_Compact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Xperia_XZ1_Compact
    - sekou 9y ago
      I've used mostly Android phones in the past I was trying to decide whether to get the Z5 Compact or finally try Apple with the iPhone SE. After nearly a year with my first iPhone I'm ready to switch back. How has your experience been with that phone?
- nikanj 9y ago
  What is the iPhone 8, but an iPhone original with better internals? The design differences are negligible at best. The iPhone X is the first deviation from the basic design.

markcerqueira 9y ago

> If you're buying an Android device, you're statistically likely trying to save money and therefore a new iPhone isn't a realistic option. Disagree strongly. Yes, plenty of Android phones come in at lower price-points so they will be more appealing to people looking to save money when purchasing a smartphone. But calling this is "statistically likely" is a gross exaggeration of the situation.

scarface74 9y ago
How is it a gross exaggeration? The average selling price of an Android phone is $227. The ASP of an iPhone is $692. https://www.androidauthority.com/price-gap-samsung-apple-smartphones-769772/ https://www.androidauthority.com/price-gap-samsung-apple-sma... The fact is if your budget for a phone is $300. You're going to buy an Android. EDIT: The link above compares Apple and Samsung. The gap is even wider when you take all manufacturers into account. $691 - $215. http://fortune.com/2016/02/15/apple-android-asps/ http://fortune.com/2016/02/15/apple-android-asps/
apendleton 9y ago
I think by "statistically likely" they just mean "more than 50%," or, in other words, that lower-price-point Android phones outsell top-shelf ones. Given that upmarket they compete with the iPhone but downmarket they pretty much own the entire product space, this doesn't seem particularly unrealistic to me.
askafriend 9y ago
Like someone pointed out, there is significant data around this. I am not exaggerating in the slightest.
- criley2 9y ago
  You're hiding behind bad statistics to basically ignore all high end android phones, Galaxy devices etc. You're pretending the entire high end android market is "negligible" by using such shoddy statistics to essentially claim "Android = Budget". We all know what you're doing when you make cheap, short comments which obscure context to push narrative. This is a very similar situation to people who use averages because medians don't tell the narrative they want. You have a narrative, and you have damned statistics, so reality doesn't really get in your way.

jonjojr 9y ago

other things to consider is the fact that for a run of the mill Android the insurance cost is significantly less and the deductible in some cases $100 compared to the $250 for an iPhone. Those who realized that the first time around would reconsider buying an Android as their next phone. Apple is not innovating as they used to in their phone and so Android is quickly closing the gap, which makes them financially speaking more viable option.

scarface74 9y ago
For the run of the mill Android phone, why buy insurance at all? My teenage son is always breaking phones. We haven't allowed him to get a phone (with his allowance) that costs more than $100. I'm very impressed with the $100 Moto G.

DannyB2 9y ago

Flagship Android phones are at about $1,000. Android users might just like the ecosystem better. There are rational reasons for that. Just like some people prefer Apple's ecosystem.

mcphage 9y ago
> Flagship Android phones are at about $1,000. I wonder how the loyalty levels vary by phone price?