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His manifesto alone paints such a picture. No anecdotes from others necessary. One coder with no unique personal success outside being hireable by Google pain
by keo92znx 9y ago
His manifesto alone paints such a picture. No anecdotes from others necessary.
One coder with no unique personal success outside being hireable by Google painting the majority of the species as lesser, with cherry picked stats that ignore human history and social trends?
Edit: I don’t care about what numbers he put in his memo. It’s the idea of peddling such a thing in the first place by someone who has no authority
Saying math says we should behave a certain way is enabling authoritarian rule, IMO
Demore forgets that he’s one of billions. He can think what he wants using his numbers, but it’s not iron clad and means nothing given that the data is generated in a highly curated social structure
It’s less “his math is off” and more “why do I care who this Demore fellow is? Because he has math? Meh lots of people do. It’s not very interesting math and theory.”
That’s not likely to connect with this crowd.
Pretty self-aggrandizing and full of shit, IMO. Not something a “place of business” as Google has painted itself in these situations, should support
- MadSudaca 9y agomaybe you should read the memo
- rapsey 9y ago> painting the majority of the species as lesser, He did that? Where?
- keo92znx 9y agoHe made comments outside his paper that women just aren’t as good at men or more of them would find satisfaction in this I’m not linking it because it’s not like this is an esoteric notion that requires extreme vetting It’s one a-hole who in the big picture isn’t important to anyone but himself. Something I think this forum and society as a whole have lost sight of I have my own take on it. Add some variables he excluded and his whole thesis goes to shit. But it still says nothing but math is like English; it can be made to produce a result that tells whatever story we want Some folks seem to think every formula peddles some inherent truth of reality, which is nonsense
- stcredzero 9y agoHe made comments outside his paper that women just aren’t as good at men or more of them would find satisfaction in this By that reasoning, there seems to be evidence that women are contextually better than men at medicine and healthcare. https://www.fastcompany.com/3044934/why-are-these-3-stem-fields-dominated-by-women https://www.fastcompany.com/3044934/why-are-these-3-stem-fie...
- wand3r 9y agoto be fair your opinion is less scientifically rigorous than the actual scientific papers he cited which was his formulation of data less than opinion. You can disagree with him & those papers but I do think a blanket dismissal of him as a person is difficult to infer from a single inter-office memo
- keo92znx 9y agoTbf this Hacker News, a casual social forum. I’m indifferent to concerns about rigor in my comments. Also I’m on a phone and half interested, passing the time on a bus.
- stcredzero 9y agoMany people who assert things about James Damore's memo are engaging in the same dishonest anti-science tactics which Climate Deniers and Evolution Deniers engage in. Science is not a democracy. People also don't get to impute James Damore's motives just because they feel strongly about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siRG42yMpyc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siRG42yMpyc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grNAjsb4yX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grNAjsb4yX8 Look up the citations, then decide for yourself who is pushing an ideological agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8 Here is a reasonable and cogent critique of the Damore memo. Liana K makes a very good argument that James Damore is wrong. However, note how many general falsehoods about the memo she calls out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIRvtA2JIIA& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIRvtA2JIIA&
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- rvo 9y agoYou need to take introduction to statistics and understand what a distribution is and what kinds of insights we can get from them.