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> One would expect San Francisco, with its progressive and environmental values, to be in the forefront of reforming exclusionary practices. Talk is cheap, but

> One would expect San Francisco, with its progressive and environmental values, to be in the forefront of reforming exclusionary practices. Talk is cheap, but voters consistently prefer increasing property values.

JBReefer 9y ago
It looks from the outside that the whole of the Bay Area has realized it can cover its awful behavior by _claiming_ to be progressive. You don't need to care about privacy, just claim to; you don't need to care about poor people when you can claim it's the right wing (who don't exist in SF)'s fault; you can claim to care about diversity and continue to hire only white men from Stanford etc. Weird world.
- jjtheblunt 9y ago
  That's very accurate, having lived there for 6.5 years most recently.
jstalin 9y ago
I've learned through lots of experience that political ideals that are held for national issues go out the window when it comes to local issues. This goes for both sides of the political spectrum.
pessimizer 9y ago
Removing zoning restrictions massively increases property values, which is why YIMBY group funding is always mysterious.
bproven 9y ago
I'm not a fan (at all) of the NIMBYism but I do understand it. What would you do if you had millions of dollars tied up in your home? If your home was your only asset of value? Especially if you bought a home in the last few years at top market value? You would fight against new housing which would deprecate your value(and rents) too. I think it is selfish - especially to our children and grandchildren that will never be able to live in SF and/or the bay area, but CA (or more accurately the bay area) asked for this and it will be hard to turn back :( Judging by reports such as this ( http://lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/265?platform=hootsuite http://lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/265?platform=hoo... ) it will just mean the middle class will be gone soon and this will be the land of the rich only... This is not wholly unique to the bay - almost every city does this. They champion rising home prices as great and then complain when they are too high b/c they didn't build to keep up with demand. Oh and also blame the techies b/c that is the cool thing to do.

JBReefer 9y ago

It looks from the outside that the whole of the Bay Area has realized it can cover its awful behavior by _claiming_ to be progressive. You don't need to care about privacy, just claim to; you don't need to care about poor people when you can claim it's the right wing (who don't exist in SF)'s fault; you can claim to care about diversity and continue to hire only white men from Stanford etc. Weird world.

jjtheblunt 9y ago
That's very accurate, having lived there for 6.5 years most recently.

jstalin 9y ago

I've learned through lots of experience that political ideals that are held for national issues go out the window when it comes to local issues. This goes for both sides of the political spectrum.

pessimizer 9y ago

Removing zoning restrictions massively increases property values, which is why YIMBY group funding is always mysterious.

bproven 9y ago

I'm not a fan (at all) of the NIMBYism but I do understand it. What would you do if you had millions of dollars tied up in your home? If your home was your only asset of value? Especially if you bought a home in the last few years at top market value? You would fight against new housing which would deprecate your value(and rents) too. I think it is selfish - especially to our children and grandchildren that will never be able to live in SF and/or the bay area, but CA (or more accurately the bay area) asked for this and it will be hard to turn back :( Judging by reports such as this ( http://lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/265?platform=hootsuite http://lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/265?platform=hoo... ) it will just mean the middle class will be gone soon and this will be the land of the rich only... This is not wholly unique to the bay - almost every city does this. They champion rising home prices as great and then complain when they are too high b/c they didn't build to keep up with demand. Oh and also blame the techies b/c that is the cool thing to do.