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Is this the same oppressive regime that surveils, firewalls and filters the internet and other forms of communication that this idea depends on?

crypt1d 9y ago
I see you are trying to be clever, but that comment doesn't really bring anything to the table. Sure, you can try to filter/block crypto transactions but that will be A LOT harder than blocking dissident blogs. One of the biggest selling points of many decentralized systems is to be censorship resistant.
- scblock 9y ago
  I am not even remotely trying to be clever.
- IncRnd 9y ago
  Blocking these transactions is trivial to do. Employers detect and block them constantly. The purported censorship resistance of these coins has nothing to do with the shape of the traffic.
  - crypt1d 9y ago
    thats only true in theory really, because there are many ways to go around the same blocks. eg , by simply storing ur wallet node remotely. nobody said that there is something special about the traffic, just that the system is set up in a way that does makes it impossible for governments to effectively stop you from enjoying ur rights to freely transact.
    - IncRnd 9y ago
      All you have done is restate what you wrote. There is empirical evidence that this traffic can and does get blocked. Furthermore, many cloud providers stop this traffic.
flowctrl 9y ago
Except it doesn't depend on any particular means of communication. You can print out Bitcoin on paper and physically trade it. You can embed it in an image and trade that. You can physically scan QR codes on each others phones to transmit it. Bitcoin and other cryptos can be transferred via sat phone. The Internet and exchanges are just conveniences. There are also numerous projects to work around Internet censorship in the crypto space. Such as the Substratum Network (https://substratum.net https://substratum.net) and Mysterium Network (https://mysterium.network https://mysterium.network).

crypt1d 9y ago

I see you are trying to be clever, but that comment doesn't really bring anything to the table. Sure, you can try to filter/block crypto transactions but that will be A LOT harder than blocking dissident blogs. One of the biggest selling points of many decentralized systems is to be censorship resistant.

scblock 9y ago
I am not even remotely trying to be clever.
IncRnd 9y ago
Blocking these transactions is trivial to do. Employers detect and block them constantly. The purported censorship resistance of these coins has nothing to do with the shape of the traffic.
- crypt1d 9y ago
  thats only true in theory really, because there are many ways to go around the same blocks. eg , by simply storing ur wallet node remotely. nobody said that there is something special about the traffic, just that the system is set up in a way that does makes it impossible for governments to effectively stop you from enjoying ur rights to freely transact.
  - IncRnd 9y ago
    All you have done is restate what you wrote. There is empirical evidence that this traffic can and does get blocked. Furthermore, many cloud providers stop this traffic.

flowctrl 9y ago

Except it doesn't depend on any particular means of communication. You can print out Bitcoin on paper and physically trade it. You can embed it in an image and trade that. You can physically scan QR codes on each others phones to transmit it. Bitcoin and other cryptos can be transferred via sat phone. The Internet and exchanges are just conveniences. There are also numerous projects to work around Internet censorship in the crypto space. Such as the Substratum Network (https://substratum.net https://substratum.net) and Mysterium Network (https://mysterium.network https://mysterium.network).