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All physical property is the same, you exchange labor for it. This distinction, and the claim that government is hat creates the property seems to come from no
by lzw 16y ago
All physical property is the same, you exchange labor for it.
This distinction, and the claim that government is hat creates the property seems to come from not thinking e notion of personal property thru.
Basically, at some point, you're advocating taking property away from people ewho have up earned it by creating it or by trading their labor for it.
You need a gang, a mafia, or a government to do that, especially when it's 10,0000 acres somewhere that a collective, or corporation, has put together.
The only difference between a collective owning property and a corporation is that a corporation is allowed to make agreements amongst the members for how the corporation is run.
The existence of a government is not necessary for the existence of corporations.
These are not made up properties created by government, but collections of property made up of possibly thousands of individual explicit agreements between people.
To end that have to stick your nose in as third party and break those agreements that people voluntarily entered into before came around.
- steveklabnik 16y ago> All physical property is the same, you exchange labor for it. This is overly simplistic. Locke was a cool guy and all, but not everyone subscribes to his worldview. > Basically, at some point, you're advocating taking property away from people ewho have up earned it by creating it or by trading their labor for it. No, I'm not.
- lzw 16y agoYes, you are. Whether you call it a possession or property, tibias the same thing.
- steveklabnik 16y agoObviously, we're not going to come to any sort of agreement here. And we never were. The point is, your worldview is not the only one. That doesn't make mine any better or worse. Just different. Thank you for the discussion. I'm not going to respond to you any more.