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also no state income tax in florida

by meestaahjoshee 9y ago

goshx 9y ago
and 6% sales tax
- walrus01 9y ago
  but depending on your political views, you also have to tolerate living in florida, which can be a distasteful experience to people whose cultural, religious and political values more closely align with the residents of portland, OR.
  - goshx 9y ago
    I've been living in Florida for 6 years now. The only thing that bothers me here is the hurricane season.
  - mlevental 9y ago
    south florida isn't so bad. miami especially is very liberal (except for the cuban exiles)
  - adl 9y ago
    For someone who lives outside the US, but has visited Florida (Miami and Orlando), what do yo mean by tolerate? I understand that they may be more... conservative?. As a tourist, Miami seemed multicultural and fairly liberal, are state politics different?
    - ryandrake 9y ago
      Speaking as a former Floridian who lived both in south Florida and the panhandle: South Florida is a tiny blue outlier in an otherwise deep red southern state. State laws and politics are dominated by Tallahassee which is physically and culturally closer to Alabama. It would be a shock to someone moving from the Bay Area or Seattle. That said, zero income taxes, low sales taxes, warm weather year round, and great beaches are all very compelling.
  - kozak 9y ago
    Could you please explain to a non-American what do you mean here? Sounds like something that is interesting to know :)
    - walrus01 9y ago
      in brief, and this is a highly anecdotal biased view, florida (in aggregate, not the more liberal cities) is a deep red state that generally agrees with Trump. https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/florida/ https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president... as a random white person, caucasian floridians I have met are racist as hell. You would not believe the things that come out of their mouths when there are no ethnic/religious minorities within earshot and they believe you to be a person that might agree with their worldview. it's a state that believes in cutting taxes to the level that they have the absolute bare minimum of social services, government services and other things that people in a western european nation (or canada, au, nz) take for granted. florida is a state that regularly elects, at the state and county level, christian-religious politicians who will attempt to do things like make abortion illegal, introduce religious into public schools, and other policies generally supported by the evangelical religious right wing.
      - goshx 9y ago
        > as a random white person, caucasian floridians I have met are racist as hell. You would not believe the things that come out of their mouths when there are no ethnic/religious minorities within earshot and they believe you to be a person that might agree with their worldview. Where did you come to in Florida? I haven't met people like what you are describing. Or perhaps you brought up the subject with them? When you say "as a random caucasian" that gives me the impression that there is a little racism in the air.
        walrus01 9y ago
        Merritt Island / Cape Canaveral area. In a work environment, I in no way brought up the subject of anything controversial race/religious/ethnic related. At the time I worked for a market sector that does a lot of telecom-related work overseas and in developing nation environments. Probably with a higher than usual percentage of ex military people. What i meant by "As a random white person", by virtue of me being pale skinned and from a northern country, other people took it as tacit acceptance that they could raise their bigoted views towards me... Basically the sort of folks who go on endlessly about how Sharia Law is coming to the united states, and barack obama is a secret muslim kenyan communist manchurian candidate. What I have found in the US is that racism is alive and well everywhere. In the US southeast it's more overt.

also no state income tax in florida

goshx 9y ago

and 6% sales tax

walrus01 9y ago
but depending on your political views, you also have to tolerate living in florida, which can be a distasteful experience to people whose cultural, religious and political values more closely align with the residents of portland, OR.
- goshx 9y ago
  I've been living in Florida for 6 years now. The only thing that bothers me here is the hurricane season.
- mlevental 9y ago
  south florida isn't so bad. miami especially is very liberal (except for the cuban exiles)
- adl 9y ago
  For someone who lives outside the US, but has visited Florida (Miami and Orlando), what do yo mean by tolerate? I understand that they may be more... conservative?. As a tourist, Miami seemed multicultural and fairly liberal, are state politics different?
  - ryandrake 9y ago
    Speaking as a former Floridian who lived both in south Florida and the panhandle: South Florida is a tiny blue outlier in an otherwise deep red southern state. State laws and politics are dominated by Tallahassee which is physically and culturally closer to Alabama. It would be a shock to someone moving from the Bay Area or Seattle. That said, zero income taxes, low sales taxes, warm weather year round, and great beaches are all very compelling.
- kozak 9y ago
  Could you please explain to a non-American what do you mean here? Sounds like something that is interesting to know :)
  - walrus01 9y ago
    in brief, and this is a highly anecdotal biased view, florida (in aggregate, not the more liberal cities) is a deep red state that generally agrees with Trump. https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/florida/ https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president... as a random white person, caucasian floridians I have met are racist as hell. You would not believe the things that come out of their mouths when there are no ethnic/religious minorities within earshot and they believe you to be a person that might agree with their worldview. it's a state that believes in cutting taxes to the level that they have the absolute bare minimum of social services, government services and other things that people in a western european nation (or canada, au, nz) take for granted. florida is a state that regularly elects, at the state and county level, christian-religious politicians who will attempt to do things like make abortion illegal, introduce religious into public schools, and other policies generally supported by the evangelical religious right wing.
    - goshx 9y ago
      > as a random white person, caucasian floridians I have met are racist as hell. You would not believe the things that come out of their mouths when there are no ethnic/religious minorities within earshot and they believe you to be a person that might agree with their worldview. Where did you come to in Florida? I haven't met people like what you are describing. Or perhaps you brought up the subject with them? When you say "as a random caucasian" that gives me the impression that there is a little racism in the air.
      - walrus01 9y ago
        Merritt Island / Cape Canaveral area. In a work environment, I in no way brought up the subject of anything controversial race/religious/ethnic related. At the time I worked for a market sector that does a lot of telecom-related work overseas and in developing nation environments. Probably with a higher than usual percentage of ex military people. What i meant by "As a random white person", by virtue of me being pale skinned and from a northern country, other people took it as tacit acceptance that they could raise their bigoted views towards me... Basically the sort of folks who go on endlessly about how Sharia Law is coming to the united states, and barack obama is a secret muslim kenyan communist manchurian candidate. What I have found in the US is that racism is alive and well everywhere. In the US southeast it's more overt.