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> Trying to diet in a major city without spending a lot of time cooking is impossible What? Are you expecting to be able to eat high quality, nutritious, and t

by ch4s3 9y ago

> Trying to diet in a major city without spending a lot of time cooking is impossible What? Are you expecting to be able to eat high quality, nutritious, and tasty food without investing either more time or money? I live in NYC and you can absolutely eat healthy food without cooking, it just costs a bit more.

ianai 9y ago
Beans, gluten, rice, potatoes, etc are all commodity goods and very cheap. Nuts can get pricy but they’re so calorically dense that you don’t need many of them either. You’re not going to convince me that cooking a baked good with a chia substitute for egg is more resource intensive. Where this argument fails is probably due to lack of economies of scale. Ie if those substitutions were made with the subsidies and scale of their animal based contemporaries they would be dramatically cheaper.
- balfirevic 9y ago
  Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but why do you associate chia substitute for egg with health?
  - ianai 9y ago
    If for nothing else, it’s a choice society makes for me and does not offer the later substitute. This reinforces the original post. Much of modern food have ingredients with sizable populations of people with allergies to those ingredients - gluten, peanut, etc. There may be more options now, but those allergies still force people out of the usual options most of the time. “Being alone” in this context would mean cooking those things at home - and generally be healthier as a result, for whatever that person deems healthy.
soundwave106 9y ago
From what I can see, an issue here is the default experience of going out for a meal in the US. Food is very associated with social activities pretty much everywhere, but the United States restaurant experience too often involves way too huge portions. This portion size ballooning certainly has contributed to the United States' obesity (https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/wecan/news-events/matte1.htm https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/wecan/news-even...). From what I see, in New York City and other major cities, it's a lot easier to find restaurants that are more balanced in portions and/or promote healthier fare. This is not necessarily true everywhere in the United States... and even in NYC, I'm sure there are quite a number of restaurants that fall into that ballooned portion size category. If a group of folks decides that this type of restaurant is what they want, if you are on a diet, what do you do? In this sense, I actually think the introvert has an advantage here. Heck, so many of the US social activities revolve around often junk-y food and/or alcohol... whether it be a celebratory party, a pancake breakfast, a picnic lunch, a potluck social, gathering to watch a game, etc...

by ch4s3 9y ago

ianai 9y ago

Beans, gluten, rice, potatoes, etc are all commodity goods and very cheap. Nuts can get pricy but they’re so calorically dense that you don’t need many of them either. You’re not going to convince me that cooking a baked good with a chia substitute for egg is more resource intensive. Where this argument fails is probably due to lack of economies of scale. Ie if those substitutions were made with the subsidies and scale of their animal based contemporaries they would be dramatically cheaper.

balfirevic 9y ago
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but why do you associate chia substitute for egg with health?
- ianai 9y ago
  If for nothing else, it’s a choice society makes for me and does not offer the later substitute. This reinforces the original post. Much of modern food have ingredients with sizable populations of people with allergies to those ingredients - gluten, peanut, etc. There may be more options now, but those allergies still force people out of the usual options most of the time. “Being alone” in this context would mean cooking those things at home - and generally be healthier as a result, for whatever that person deems healthy.

soundwave106 9y ago

From what I can see, an issue here is the default experience of going out for a meal in the US. Food is very associated with social activities pretty much everywhere, but the United States restaurant experience too often involves way too huge portions. This portion size ballooning certainly has contributed to the United States' obesity (https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/wecan/news-events/matte1.htm https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/wecan/news-even...). From what I see, in New York City and other major cities, it's a lot easier to find restaurants that are more balanced in portions and/or promote healthier fare. This is not necessarily true everywhere in the United States... and even in NYC, I'm sure there are quite a number of restaurants that fall into that ballooned portion size category. If a group of folks decides that this type of restaurant is what they want, if you are on a diet, what do you do? In this sense, I actually think the introvert has an advantage here. Heck, so many of the US social activities revolve around often junk-y food and/or alcohol... whether it be a celebratory party, a pancake breakfast, a picnic lunch, a potluck social, gathering to watch a game, etc...