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It's funny. I see heavily animal based and fatty as healthy. I'd write this as: "diet options tend to be sugar based and nutrient poor, filled with soy and co

It's funny. I see heavily animal based and fatty as healthy. I'd write this as: "diet options tend to be sugar based and nutrient poor, filled with soy and corn syrup."

losteric 9y ago
It depends on the animals and fats. eg red meats correlate with heart disease and some cancers.
- sethammons 9y ago
  On mobile, sorry for my lack of sources. If I recall, the animal meats/fat's linked to cancer studies claim themselves that it could be the way factory farms work or the meats being processed that caused the correlation, and they did not reproduce results with organic meats. As for the heart disease, there is a well known heart sergeon who seems to have studies supporting that it is excess carbs that lead to inflammation in the arteries that leads to plaque build up that leads to heart disease. Food for thought.
  - ianai 9y ago
    And there are other well known surgeons that have articles indicating animal based diets lead to inflammation and etc. I’m not trying to argue vegan vs Keto or whatever here. If you choose either of those options you’re almost immediately looking to cook more for yourself -the diet equivalent of being a loner (sorta). (Side note, though, the animal based options are much more prevalent than the vegan options.) This may seem a small thing, but people really do socialize around food to a large extent.
- base698 9y ago
  This is contested now--in part due to the sugar industries tactics of trying to make saturated fat the evil. They didn't control for nitrates/processed meats either in some of the studies. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0095ZMPTU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0095ZMPTU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?...
Will_Parker 9y ago
As well, the fact that starch and sugar are essentially identical metabolically is a key point that people don't believe, mostly because they don't want to at a deep emotional level. Replacing doughnuts and chips with bagels and pasta can make no difference, except other people's perception.
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- erkkie 9y ago
  Don't let perfect be the enemy of good here, replacing doughnuts , chips, bagels and pasta with say black rice or boiled potatoes still has nutrients benefits. Just choose something with an incrementally better nutrients profile.
  - Will_Parker 9y ago
    Totally. I deliberately chose bagels and pasta as being foods as calorie rich and nutritionally empty as a can of coke. Yet people think their pasta salad is healthy.
    - erkkie 9y ago
      And I completely misread what you wrote at first, we're in perfect agreement :)

It's funny. I see heavily animal based and fatty as healthy. I'd write this as: "diet options tend to be sugar based and nutrient poor, filled with soy and corn syrup."

losteric 9y ago

It depends on the animals and fats. eg red meats correlate with heart disease and some cancers.

sethammons 9y ago
On mobile, sorry for my lack of sources. If I recall, the animal meats/fat's linked to cancer studies claim themselves that it could be the way factory farms work or the meats being processed that caused the correlation, and they did not reproduce results with organic meats. As for the heart disease, there is a well known heart sergeon who seems to have studies supporting that it is excess carbs that lead to inflammation in the arteries that leads to plaque build up that leads to heart disease. Food for thought.
- ianai 9y ago
  And there are other well known surgeons that have articles indicating animal based diets lead to inflammation and etc. I’m not trying to argue vegan vs Keto or whatever here. If you choose either of those options you’re almost immediately looking to cook more for yourself -the diet equivalent of being a loner (sorta). (Side note, though, the animal based options are much more prevalent than the vegan options.) This may seem a small thing, but people really do socialize around food to a large extent.
base698 9y ago
This is contested now--in part due to the sugar industries tactics of trying to make saturated fat the evil. They didn't control for nitrates/processed meats either in some of the studies. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0095ZMPTU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0095ZMPTU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?...

Will_Parker 9y ago

As well, the fact that starch and sugar are essentially identical metabolically is a key point that people don't believe, mostly because they don't want to at a deep emotional level. Replacing doughnuts and chips with bagels and pasta can make no difference, except other people's perception.

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erkkie 9y ago
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good here, replacing doughnuts , chips, bagels and pasta with say black rice or boiled potatoes still has nutrients benefits. Just choose something with an incrementally better nutrients profile.
- Will_Parker 9y ago
  Totally. I deliberately chose bagels and pasta as being foods as calorie rich and nutritionally empty as a can of coke. Yet people think their pasta salad is healthy.
  - erkkie 9y ago
    And I completely misread what you wrote at first, we're in perfect agreement :)