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Between Elizabeth Warren and Ron Wyden, whether you agree with their politics or not, I just love how they fiercely advocate for citizens and have a nuanced vie

by atonse 9y ago

Between Elizabeth Warren and Ron Wyden, whether you agree with their politics or not, I just love how they fiercely advocate for citizens and have a nuanced view on a lot of consumer and privacy friendly issues. Easily my two favorite senators, even more than ones from my own state (MD).

FussyZeus 9y ago
Never watched any of Ron Wyden, but I've seen numerous clips of Warren eviscerating some stuffed suit or another. Sadly it never seems to amount to much real action but Congress doesn't do much these days anyway so...
- awakeasleep 9y ago
  Warren's testimony was instrumental in getting Strumpf fired from Wells Fargo! Thats real action
  - FussyZeus 9y ago
    Kind of? Poor guy, he's totally unemployable with 123 million in assets. Wooo. Clearly he will be an example to future executives, no sarcasm intended but you should still be worried.
- rbanffy 9y ago
  > it never seems to amount to much real action I guess there will be a lot of action after the midterms.
EtDybNuvCu 9y ago
Us Oregonians like Wyden quite a bit; he'll have his seat for as long as he continues to care about issues like this, for sure.
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  For what it's worth, most people in a given district like their Congressmen quite a bit, which is why they tend to stick around a while. As the world continues to wonder sometimes why people like Mitch McConnell keep getting re-elected... it's because, well, the majority of people in Kentucky seem to like him.
  - atonse 9y ago
    It's often a lot more ambivalence than actual like for that candidate. I've lived in MD for 20 years and I honestly can't tell you too much of what my various senators (and representative) have accomplished. But I'll keep voting for them because I can't really think of anything nasty they've persistently done. I suspect I'm not alone in that. If a markedly better candidate presents themselves, I might consider changing my vote.
ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Wyden is way too deep in with Google, anyone who shows up on this list is particularly suspect: http://valleywag.gawker.com/these-letters-reveal-which-congressmen-google-has-in-it-1663875664 http://valleywag.gawker.com/these-letters-reveal-which-congr... Specifically, the above are Congressmen who wrote letters begging the EU not to go after Google for antitrust, all of whom have significant financial investment from the company. I would say anyone on this list isn't an "advocate for citizens". Warren, on the other hand, has picked up a reasonable amount of money from them, but her corporate contributions are a bit more balanced, Google's further down on the list, and her words and actions speak for themselves: http://time.com/4390274/elizabeth-warren-apple-google-amazon-competition/ http://time.com/4390274/elizabeth-warren-apple-google-amazon... Warren's quite a bit further liberal than I am, but given the chance, she'd probably get my vote over most other people on the political spectrum.
- dv_dt 9y ago
  Congress has basically given themselves the permission for insider trading... https://represent.us/action/insider-trading/ https://represent.us/action/insider-trading/
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- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  IMO Warren and consumer protection advocates in general are handicapped a ton by the two party system. Her core focus (consumer protection) when you add up all the stuff from the democratic party that is a deal-breaker to X or Y group there's a lot less people left to vote them in. Consumer protection has a massive potential reach. There are 300x10^6+ people in the US who don't want to get screwed over by shady business practices. However, for a great number of them there's a more pressing issue that prevents them from voting for the party that happens to have people that champion it.
- doctorsher 9y ago
  Can you explain what Wyden's involvement was in the letter writing campaign? He is not listed in the signatures of the letter in the article you linked. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the financial times article, so I can't evaluate the claims the gawker article made in passing.
dominotw 9y ago
Oh I still remember this https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-hacking-explained/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-... > But election officials and cyber experts say it's virtually impossible for Moscow or some other outside group to influence the election outcome. > Hackers could create mischief -- some say "chaos" -- but the election system is resilient enough to withstand shocks. And this > Rumors of hacking -- even if not successful -- could undermine faith in the election and play into a losing politician's claim that the election was "rigged. Even Obama went out of his way to claim that this is impossible, smh. Its funny how this went from "cannot be hacked" to "myth". Surely these politicians were doing no grilling when they thought their side was winning. Same old politicians doing partisan crap. I wonder if there would have been HN comments claiming republicans senators are heroes for "grilling" had Hillary won.
- dominotw 9y ago
  why was this downvoted. Do people seriously believe that these people would have been doing any sort of 'grilling' had hillary won?
beams_of_light 9y ago
She's a national treasure. I became a huge fan after her investigation in the 2007/08 financial crisis. She even went against her own party and requested an investigation into why the Obama administration didn't prosecute people responsible. http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/senator-elizabeth-warren-requests-formal-investigation-about-why-obama http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/senator-elizabeth-w...

by atonse 9y ago

FussyZeus 9y ago

Never watched any of Ron Wyden, but I've seen numerous clips of Warren eviscerating some stuffed suit or another. Sadly it never seems to amount to much real action but Congress doesn't do much these days anyway so...

awakeasleep 9y ago
Warren's testimony was instrumental in getting Strumpf fired from Wells Fargo! Thats real action
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  Kind of? Poor guy, he's totally unemployable with 123 million in assets. Wooo. Clearly he will be an example to future executives, no sarcasm intended but you should still be worried.
rbanffy 9y ago
> it never seems to amount to much real action I guess there will be a lot of action after the midterms.

EtDybNuvCu 9y ago

Us Oregonians like Wyden quite a bit; he'll have his seat for as long as he continues to care about issues like this, for sure.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
For what it's worth, most people in a given district like their Congressmen quite a bit, which is why they tend to stick around a while. As the world continues to wonder sometimes why people like Mitch McConnell keep getting re-elected... it's because, well, the majority of people in Kentucky seem to like him.
- atonse 9y ago
  It's often a lot more ambivalence than actual like for that candidate. I've lived in MD for 20 years and I honestly can't tell you too much of what my various senators (and representative) have accomplished. But I'll keep voting for them because I can't really think of anything nasty they've persistently done. I suspect I'm not alone in that. If a markedly better candidate presents themselves, I might consider changing my vote.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago

Wyden is way too deep in with Google, anyone who shows up on this list is particularly suspect: http://valleywag.gawker.com/these-letters-reveal-which-congressmen-google-has-in-it-1663875664 http://valleywag.gawker.com/these-letters-reveal-which-congr... Specifically, the above are Congressmen who wrote letters begging the EU not to go after Google for antitrust, all of whom have significant financial investment from the company. I would say anyone on this list isn't an "advocate for citizens". Warren, on the other hand, has picked up a reasonable amount of money from them, but her corporate contributions are a bit more balanced, Google's further down on the list, and her words and actions speak for themselves: http://time.com/4390274/elizabeth-warren-apple-google-amazon-competition/ http://time.com/4390274/elizabeth-warren-apple-google-amazon... Warren's quite a bit further liberal than I am, but given the chance, she'd probably get my vote over most other people on the political spectrum.

dv_dt 9y ago
Congress has basically given themselves the permission for insider trading... https://represent.us/action/insider-trading/ https://represent.us/action/insider-trading/
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
dsfyu404ed 9y ago
IMO Warren and consumer protection advocates in general are handicapped a ton by the two party system. Her core focus (consumer protection) when you add up all the stuff from the democratic party that is a deal-breaker to X or Y group there's a lot less people left to vote them in. Consumer protection has a massive potential reach. There are 300x10^6+ people in the US who don't want to get screwed over by shady business practices. However, for a great number of them there's a more pressing issue that prevents them from voting for the party that happens to have people that champion it.
doctorsher 9y ago
Can you explain what Wyden's involvement was in the letter writing campaign? He is not listed in the signatures of the letter in the article you linked. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the financial times article, so I can't evaluate the claims the gawker article made in passing.

dominotw 9y ago

Oh I still remember this https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-hacking-explained/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-... > But election officials and cyber experts say it's virtually impossible for Moscow or some other outside group to influence the election outcome. > Hackers could create mischief -- some say "chaos" -- but the election system is resilient enough to withstand shocks. And this > Rumors of hacking -- even if not successful -- could undermine faith in the election and play into a losing politician's claim that the election was "rigged. Even Obama went out of his way to claim that this is impossible, smh. Its funny how this went from "cannot be hacked" to "myth". Surely these politicians were doing no grilling when they thought their side was winning. Same old politicians doing partisan crap. I wonder if there would have been HN comments claiming republicans senators are heroes for "grilling" had Hillary won.

dominotw 9y ago
why was this downvoted. Do people seriously believe that these people would have been doing any sort of 'grilling' had hillary won?

beams_of_light 9y ago

She's a national treasure. I became a huge fan after her investigation in the 2007/08 financial crisis. She even went against her own party and requested an investigation into why the Obama administration didn't prosecute people responsible. http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/senator-elizabeth-warren-requests-formal-investigation-about-why-obama http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/senator-elizabeth-w...