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What about back catalogs, though? Only the labels can provide those. Edit: Just remembered that Spotify may already be doing something like this[0] for certain

by Cenk 9y ago

What about back catalogs, though? Only the labels can provide those. Edit: Just remembered that Spotify may already be doing something like this[0] for certain areas where name recognition and back catalog don’t matter. A very clever approach, if they commissioned more tracks like these and filled their playlists with them, and concentrated on growing the areas of their user base that listen to those kinds of playlists, they could decrease their dependence on the record labels. [0]: https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/12/15961416/spotify-fake-artist-controversy-mystery-tracks https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/12/15961416/spotify-fake-art...

ehnto 9y ago
My understanding was the vast majority of listens come from popular artists, and those listening to niche artists (of which there are tens of thousands) are the minority (~10%). But on researching this comment it would seem I may be way off base https://insights.spotify.com/no/2017/11/02/listening-diversity-spotify/ https://insights.spotify.com/no/2017/11/02/listening-diversi.... I really hope that is the case. I have more than a hundred artists in my saved list and a huge spread of genres and styles. I enjoy Spotify constantly for giving me some of these insights. I am just as likely to get a suggestion for an artist with 1000 followers versus someone with 500,000 thousand. The algorithm doesn't seem to give much weight to popularity and I love that. Popularity just isn't a strong indicator for quality music and people have been musing over that point for centuries. I think for many, music is just background noise or social fodder. Used solely for those ends then popularity matters. Otherwise, it's a useless metric and you are just as likely to find a genius with 200 followers as you are a vapid repeater box with 500,000. The hurdles serve as enough of a barrier for people posting just garbage to the platform, but they don't seem to hinder those who are creative but unpopular.
- StellarTabi 9y ago
  I'm hoping they double down on non-mainstream music, because that's what I'm using it for.
- eitland 9y ago
  > I think for many, music is just background noise... That's me 90% of the time. So names doesn't matter much AND I'd actually be happy if the artists got paid better, directly and without feeding the middle men in todays music industry.

by Cenk 9y ago

ehnto 9y ago

My understanding was the vast majority of listens come from popular artists, and those listening to niche artists (of which there are tens of thousands) are the minority (~10%). But on researching this comment it would seem I may be way off base https://insights.spotify.com/no/2017/11/02/listening-diversity-spotify/ https://insights.spotify.com/no/2017/11/02/listening-diversi.... I really hope that is the case. I have more than a hundred artists in my saved list and a huge spread of genres and styles. I enjoy Spotify constantly for giving me some of these insights. I am just as likely to get a suggestion for an artist with 1000 followers versus someone with 500,000 thousand. The algorithm doesn't seem to give much weight to popularity and I love that. Popularity just isn't a strong indicator for quality music and people have been musing over that point for centuries. I think for many, music is just background noise or social fodder. Used solely for those ends then popularity matters. Otherwise, it's a useless metric and you are just as likely to find a genius with 200 followers as you are a vapid repeater box with 500,000. The hurdles serve as enough of a barrier for people posting just garbage to the platform, but they don't seem to hinder those who are creative but unpopular.

StellarTabi 9y ago
I'm hoping they double down on non-mainstream music, because that's what I'm using it for.
eitland 9y ago
> I think for many, music is just background noise... That's me 90% of the time. So names doesn't matter much AND I'd actually be happy if the artists got paid better, directly and without feeding the middle men in todays music industry.