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I went through this whole discussion here before. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16434164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16434164 My unanswered que

I went through this whole discussion here before. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16434164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16434164 My unanswered questions on distilled water: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449541 Edit: for clarity.

goldenkey 9y ago
Calcium isn't going to magically go into your distilled water and "remineralize" it - because most minerals aren't air gases. Distilled water pulls minerals from cells and causes apoptosis. Its just simple science of osmosis. Its not a big deal if you arent fasting, because most people get their minerals from solid food anyways.
- RobertRoberts 9y ago
  >Calcium isn't going to magically go into your distilled water and "remineralize" it... Fair enough. >Distilled water pulls minerals from cells and causes apoptosis. Does it do this because it's acidic? >...most people get their minerals from solid food anyways. Are you saying that because distilled water is acidic, and doesn't have minerals, it will destroy our bodies when fasting?
  - pvaldes 9y ago
    Not, is for osmotic pressure. Cells are burst by that water. Is a simplification, but is a "mechanical damage" Any strong acid able to "dissolve tissues" will kill cells of course (causing apoptosis), but is not the only way. Distilled water is not so acid. Your questions are too over-specialized, too vague or too complex to be answered in a few lines. I can understand the lack of motivation and answers. How much electrolytes are there in a single "bite" of "any particular food"... is an example of question impossible to answer. A mouthful is a variable and undefined amount of matter, and "any particular food" has an almost infinite range.
    - RobertRoberts 9y ago
      >Your questions are too over-specialized, too vague or too complex to be answered in a few lines. I am obviously uninformed on the topic, so belittling my questions seems like a way to sidestep answering the spirit of the questions. Edit: >Cells are burst by that water. Is a simplification, but is a "mechanical damage" From a quick google search, this seems to only happen when the cells are actually removed from the body and submerged in distilled water. Do you believe that drinking distilled water causes blood cells to burst in our veins?
      - pvaldes 9y ago
        > this seems to only happen when the cells are actually removed Not, this is false. All alive tissues are subject to osmotic regulation. Is a basic mechanism to protect the cell integrity. > drinking distilled water causes blood cells to burst in our veins? Not in your veins, in your gut. Is well known that drinking big amounts of distilled water causes diarrhea. A glass of water will not have much effect on you. All depends on the dose. (Injecting distilled water directly in your veins could cause blood cells to burst, on the other hand).
        RobertRoberts 9y ago
        >All alive tissues are subject to osmotic regulation. Is a basic mechanism to protect the cell integrity. >Not in your veins, in your gut. >...drinking big amounts of distilled water causes diarrhea. Stating that distilled water caused cells to explode in your stomach and give you diarrhoea are some extraordinary claims that I have never come across before, and I think they require some sources to back up. Edit: Some googling and I am mostly finding support for distilled water, and nothing as dramatic as what you are claiming about exploding cells in your stomach. Even the doctors that seem to oppose distilled water support its use for detoxing. I think the idea of distilled water being bad is an old myth that is still hanging around. Edit2: I just found out that all the navy ships and submarines provide distilled water as the only drinking source for their sailors. Considering that they are at sea for months at a time, I think this completely debunks the myth that distilled water "explodes cells" and causes diarrhoea.
cyphar 9y ago
I went back and answered this question[1] in your thread. However some of your questions give the impression that you are not familiar with a high-school level of chemistry. I would recommend reading up acid-base reactions to help learn more about these sorts of questions. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449986
- RobertRoberts 9y ago
  Sure, I may be ignorant to much of chemistry. Which is why I asked questions that should have black and white answers, but these seem to be avoided. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449541
  - cyphar 9y ago
    Rain isn't distilled water, as fumes from things like cars or other forms of pollution can cause the water to contain harmful components that can be removed using distillation (think acid rain). While the water cycle looks (at first glance) like a distillation process, it occurs in an environment that is quite unlike a laboratory, resulting in contamination. As for electrolytes, usually you need to intake specific foods or liquids that are high in electrolytes (electrolytes are just chemicals that increase electrical conductivity of a solution when dissolved). So while a litre of tap water has more electrolytes than a litre of distilled water, a litre of fruit juice has more (though drinking a litre of fruit juice probably isn't great for you). As for whether lack of electrolytes is harmful, the answer is yes. Electrolytes are required for your body's electro-chemistry to operate properly and maintain the proper function of your heart, brain, body's fluid-balance, and pH buffer system. When you lose electrolytes (such as through heavy sweating, diarrhea or vomiting) those processes may not work as well. I would note that when you are dehydrated, hospitals will generally provide you with liquid electrolytes (intravenously if the situation is dire), implying that there is some medical benefit of liquid sources over solid ones (but I might be mistaken). But there are several solid sources of electrolytes.
    - RobertRoberts 9y ago

goldenkey 9y ago

Calcium isn't going to magically go into your distilled water and "remineralize" it - because most minerals aren't air gases. Distilled water pulls minerals from cells and causes apoptosis. Its just simple science of osmosis. Its not a big deal if you arent fasting, because most people get their minerals from solid food anyways.

RobertRoberts 9y ago
>Calcium isn't going to magically go into your distilled water and "remineralize" it... Fair enough. >Distilled water pulls minerals from cells and causes apoptosis. Does it do this because it's acidic? >...most people get their minerals from solid food anyways. Are you saying that because distilled water is acidic, and doesn't have minerals, it will destroy our bodies when fasting?
- pvaldes 9y ago
  Not, is for osmotic pressure. Cells are burst by that water. Is a simplification, but is a "mechanical damage" Any strong acid able to "dissolve tissues" will kill cells of course (causing apoptosis), but is not the only way. Distilled water is not so acid. Your questions are too over-specialized, too vague or too complex to be answered in a few lines. I can understand the lack of motivation and answers. How much electrolytes are there in a single "bite" of "any particular food"... is an example of question impossible to answer. A mouthful is a variable and undefined amount of matter, and "any particular food" has an almost infinite range.
  - RobertRoberts 9y ago
    >Your questions are too over-specialized, too vague or too complex to be answered in a few lines. I am obviously uninformed on the topic, so belittling my questions seems like a way to sidestep answering the spirit of the questions. Edit: >Cells are burst by that water. Is a simplification, but is a "mechanical damage" From a quick google search, this seems to only happen when the cells are actually removed from the body and submerged in distilled water. Do you believe that drinking distilled water causes blood cells to burst in our veins?
    - pvaldes 9y ago
      > this seems to only happen when the cells are actually removed Not, this is false. All alive tissues are subject to osmotic regulation. Is a basic mechanism to protect the cell integrity. > drinking distilled water causes blood cells to burst in our veins? Not in your veins, in your gut. Is well known that drinking big amounts of distilled water causes diarrhea. A glass of water will not have much effect on you. All depends on the dose. (Injecting distilled water directly in your veins could cause blood cells to burst, on the other hand).
      - RobertRoberts 9y ago
        >All alive tissues are subject to osmotic regulation. Is a basic mechanism to protect the cell integrity. >Not in your veins, in your gut. >...drinking big amounts of distilled water causes diarrhea. Stating that distilled water caused cells to explode in your stomach and give you diarrhoea are some extraordinary claims that I have never come across before, and I think they require some sources to back up. Edit: Some googling and I am mostly finding support for distilled water, and nothing as dramatic as what you are claiming about exploding cells in your stomach. Even the doctors that seem to oppose distilled water support its use for detoxing. I think the idea of distilled water being bad is an old myth that is still hanging around. Edit2: I just found out that all the navy ships and submarines provide distilled water as the only drinking source for their sailors. Considering that they are at sea for months at a time, I think this completely debunks the myth that distilled water "explodes cells" and causes diarrhoea.

cyphar 9y ago

I went back and answered this question[1] in your thread. However some of your questions give the impression that you are not familiar with a high-school level of chemistry. I would recommend reading up acid-base reactions to help learn more about these sorts of questions. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449986

RobertRoberts 9y ago
Sure, I may be ignorant to much of chemistry. Which is why I asked questions that should have black and white answers, but these seem to be avoided. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449541 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16449541
- cyphar 9y ago
  Rain isn't distilled water, as fumes from things like cars or other forms of pollution can cause the water to contain harmful components that can be removed using distillation (think acid rain). While the water cycle looks (at first glance) like a distillation process, it occurs in an environment that is quite unlike a laboratory, resulting in contamination. As for electrolytes, usually you need to intake specific foods or liquids that are high in electrolytes (electrolytes are just chemicals that increase electrical conductivity of a solution when dissolved). So while a litre of tap water has more electrolytes than a litre of distilled water, a litre of fruit juice has more (though drinking a litre of fruit juice probably isn't great for you). As for whether lack of electrolytes is harmful, the answer is yes. Electrolytes are required for your body's electro-chemistry to operate properly and maintain the proper function of your heart, brain, body's fluid-balance, and pH buffer system. When you lose electrolytes (such as through heavy sweating, diarrhea or vomiting) those processes may not work as well. I would note that when you are dehydrated, hospitals will generally provide you with liquid electrolytes (intravenously if the situation is dire), implying that there is some medical benefit of liquid sources over solid ones (but I might be mistaken). But there are several solid sources of electrolytes.
  - RobertRoberts 9y ago