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It's a shame that people want to turn los angeles into nyc or sf. We have that already. Can't LA remain unique?

mixmastamyk 9y ago
Uniquely filled with homeless and skyrocketing rents because there's not enough housing? Uniquely stuck in traffic because there's not enough metro lines? Unique that there's few walkable areas like the lovely cities in Europe? No LA currently is the worst of both worlds, an unwalkable, undrivable suburb as far as the eye can see. The best thing that could happen to it is to become a real city.
- bkmartin 9y ago
  Doesn't the earthquake risk significantly curb LA's ability to build up as much as NYC? I think there are probably certain density limiting factors like this. Which just means that they need to adapt to what that means in terms of sprawl and moving people around.
  - ecshafer 9y ago
    Very tall buildings can actually be safer than shorter buildings, because they are all made of steel, and can have a lot of anti earthquake support built in. Also as a short proof, Japan and Taiwan are also directly on top of a fault line. Taipei and Tokyo have some of the tallest buildings in the world. The tech is there.
  - mixmastamyk 9y ago
    DTLA has plenty of skyscrapers. Tokyo is bigger than LA and NYC put together.
- throwawazqq 9y ago
  The policy described in the article and those set in place in the past 5 years have created the worst traffic we've seen. Watch any movie filmed in LA before 2000 and look at the traffic compared to now. There were ten plus million residents then too. Essentially, we have terrible City managers now that favor ideology over flow algorithms and have made the city avg speed 9 mph
- mayniac 9y ago
  I found LA absolutely horrible to get around. Second city I had visited in the US. Got a hotel room near Hollywood because that seemed like a decent idea as a tourist for a long weekend. On the first day I find that parking is $60/night. So I park a half mile away where it's closer to $10 and walk. That half mile turns into close to thirty minutes of walking because it involves crossing roads with three lanes in either direction. So I decide to try public transport: except for that there's no metro line near West Hollywood, buses take exact change only and I can't find one to begin with, and to get a TAP card I have to drive to the nearest vendor anyway which doesn't sell TAP cards past 5pm. Fine, so I'll drive. Except for that I have to take route 10 or 101 to get anywhere, both of which are almost always at a standstill. In the evening I decide to go drinking and realise I HAVE to get an uber. So I can't drive, can't walk, can't use public transport...admittedly I booked a hotel in a bad location for sightseeing since it was very last minute, but I have NEVER had any issues with getting around European and Asian cities in similar situations. Only typing this out because this is how I'm guessing a very large percent of tourists see LA: it's an absolutely beautiful city completely ruined by the fact that you can't see any of it easily.
  - mixmastamyk 9y ago
    West Hollywood is a nice area but horrible for getting around. Hollywood itself is the opposite however, due to the Red Line and FlyAway Bus.
- bikezen 9y ago
  Do you live in LA, have you actually spent time here or is this a random post? People think the traffic is terrible, but they also expect to get from the east side to Santa Monica at rush hour for some unknown reason. There is a growing rail system, and the 2nd largest bus system in the US. Given the population as it is now, I think "unwalkable, undrivable" is a bit of an overstatement or people simply wouldn't live here.
  - mixmastamyk 9y ago
    Born here. In a city you’ll take a metro because density would support it.

Uniquely filled with homeless and skyrocketing rents because there's not enough housing? Uniquely stuck in traffic because there's not enough metro lines? Unique that there's few walkable areas like the lovely cities in Europe? No LA currently is the worst of both worlds, an unwalkable, undrivable suburb as far as the eye can see. The best thing that could happen to it is to become a real city.

bkmartin 9y ago
Doesn't the earthquake risk significantly curb LA's ability to build up as much as NYC? I think there are probably certain density limiting factors like this. Which just means that they need to adapt to what that means in terms of sprawl and moving people around.
- ecshafer 9y ago
  Very tall buildings can actually be safer than shorter buildings, because they are all made of steel, and can have a lot of anti earthquake support built in. Also as a short proof, Japan and Taiwan are also directly on top of a fault line. Taipei and Tokyo have some of the tallest buildings in the world. The tech is there.
- mixmastamyk 9y ago
  DTLA has plenty of skyscrapers. Tokyo is bigger than LA and NYC put together.
throwawazqq 9y ago
The policy described in the article and those set in place in the past 5 years have created the worst traffic we've seen. Watch any movie filmed in LA before 2000 and look at the traffic compared to now. There were ten plus million residents then too. Essentially, we have terrible City managers now that favor ideology over flow algorithms and have made the city avg speed 9 mph
mayniac 9y ago
I found LA absolutely horrible to get around. Second city I had visited in the US. Got a hotel room near Hollywood because that seemed like a decent idea as a tourist for a long weekend. On the first day I find that parking is $60/night. So I park a half mile away where it's closer to $10 and walk. That half mile turns into close to thirty minutes of walking because it involves crossing roads with three lanes in either direction. So I decide to try public transport: except for that there's no metro line near West Hollywood, buses take exact change only and I can't find one to begin with, and to get a TAP card I have to drive to the nearest vendor anyway which doesn't sell TAP cards past 5pm. Fine, so I'll drive. Except for that I have to take route 10 or 101 to get anywhere, both of which are almost always at a standstill. In the evening I decide to go drinking and realise I HAVE to get an uber. So I can't drive, can't walk, can't use public transport...admittedly I booked a hotel in a bad location for sightseeing since it was very last minute, but I have NEVER had any issues with getting around European and Asian cities in similar situations. Only typing this out because this is how I'm guessing a very large percent of tourists see LA: it's an absolutely beautiful city completely ruined by the fact that you can't see any of it easily.
- mixmastamyk 9y ago
  West Hollywood is a nice area but horrible for getting around. Hollywood itself is the opposite however, due to the Red Line and FlyAway Bus.
bikezen 9y ago
Do you live in LA, have you actually spent time here or is this a random post? People think the traffic is terrible, but they also expect to get from the east side to Santa Monica at rush hour for some unknown reason. There is a growing rail system, and the 2nd largest bus system in the US. Given the population as it is now, I think "unwalkable, undrivable" is a bit of an overstatement or people simply wouldn't live here.
- mixmastamyk 9y ago
  Born here. In a city you’ll take a metro because density would support it.