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You should consider Android One [1] phones. There's plenty of them now, including all the latest Nokia released ones. They have vanilla Android and receive all

You should consider Android One [1] phones. There's plenty of them now, including all the latest Nokia released ones. They have vanilla Android and receive all updates directly from Google. I personally own a Xiaomi Mi A1[2] that I purchased from Amazon for under CAD$320. Solid phone and overall great specs for this price range. The only thing missing is NFC, but I don't miss it too much since the rollout of Android Pay (Google Pay) in Canada extends only to few financial institutions. [1] https://android.com/one https://android.com/one [2] https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Android-Cameras-Unlocked-Version/dp/B076HQ6FSY/ https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Android-Cameras-Unlocked-Versio...

BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
I had Android One phones back when they were called Nexus 4 and Nexus 5, and they stopped getting updates after 18 months. I know that things have gotten a little better on paper, but Google really has to prove itself to me now. They've been dicking around too much for too long. Fool me once, etc. Android One says "two years of upgrades", but I see no promises about patch schedule reliability. Motorola also promised to bring Android 8 to the G5+. Maybe it will happen in 2018. We'll see. That's just not good enough. Also...2 years is an impoverished standard compared to the 5 years that iPhones get.
- a012 9y ago
  I bought a Nokia 8 because I saw it got upgraded to Oreo 8.0 then 8.1 recently. Looks like only Nokia/HMD is the most competent vendor now.
- bfrog 9y ago
  Well seeing as you can get two new phones in those 5 years and still pay less than a single iPhone...
  - BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
    Which ones get all of their updates on time, don't cost just as much, and aren't hobbled in the US?
    - bfrog 9y ago
      My Nexus 5x cost me $250, lasted 2 years, expect this $150 Moto x4 to do the same. iPhone is $600+, I could still get another phone!
      - BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
        > My Nexus 5x cost me $250, lasted 2 years, expect this $150 Moto x4 to do the same. iPhone is $600+, I could still get another phone! Huh? I see the Moto X4 as 350 USD without a service contract. I think you're using carrier rebates on only one side of your equation.
        bfrog 9y ago
        250 at project fi, 150 with Nexus trade in

BugsJustFindMe 9y ago

I had Android One phones back when they were called Nexus 4 and Nexus 5, and they stopped getting updates after 18 months. I know that things have gotten a little better on paper, but Google really has to prove itself to me now. They've been dicking around too much for too long. Fool me once, etc. Android One says "two years of upgrades", but I see no promises about patch schedule reliability. Motorola also promised to bring Android 8 to the G5+. Maybe it will happen in 2018. We'll see. That's just not good enough. Also...2 years is an impoverished standard compared to the 5 years that iPhones get.

a012 9y ago
I bought a Nokia 8 because I saw it got upgraded to Oreo 8.0 then 8.1 recently. Looks like only Nokia/HMD is the most competent vendor now.
bfrog 9y ago
Well seeing as you can get two new phones in those 5 years and still pay less than a single iPhone...
- BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
  Which ones get all of their updates on time, don't cost just as much, and aren't hobbled in the US?
  - bfrog 9y ago
    My Nexus 5x cost me $250, lasted 2 years, expect this $150 Moto x4 to do the same. iPhone is $600+, I could still get another phone!
    - BugsJustFindMe 9y ago
      > My Nexus 5x cost me $250, lasted 2 years, expect this $150 Moto x4 to do the same. iPhone is $600+, I could still get another phone! Huh? I see the Moto X4 as 350 USD without a service contract. I think you're using carrier rebates on only one side of your equation.
      - bfrog 9y ago
        250 at project fi, 150 with Nexus trade in