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I must’ve missed the part when China became a democracy. While I hold the same fear as China continues to aggressively pursue the Orwellian path, I seldom to se

I must’ve missed the part when China became a democracy. While I hold the same fear as China continues to aggressively pursue the Orwellian path, I seldom to see model governments that makes China second think its authoritarian decision. After all, I can’t envision other governments wanting to become US—-when excluding its resources. I hope we become better so we can emerge as the role model that we once were.

ASalazarMX 9y ago
> I hope we become better so we can emerge as the role model that we once were. USA is still a role model on many areas: cultural, economic, military, etc. It was never a moral role model, although that didn't deter the government of boasting about it anyway.
- throwaway7656 9y ago
  Economic role model? Are you even serious? US debt on 6th of March 2000 was 5.7 trillions. [0] Today it is 20.8 trillions. And what USA has to show for the mere 15 trillions of debt? Affordable healthcare? Free education? Absence of homeless population? Shiny new infrastructure? Thousands of kilometers of speed-rails connecting major cities? Role model. You guys are delusional. Let me tell you something like non-american. The whole world looks at you with sheer amusement. [0] https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current PS: The only economic achievement I can list is that US elites have managed to alienate with their policies half of the country, so that half decided to give country a try with some real estate tycoon who enjoys to bang pornstars in his free time. Quite an achievement indeed. 15 trillions well spent.
  - ASalazarMX 9y ago
    And to think this article was written in 2000: "Clinton Forecasts Debt-Free Nation" http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94572 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94572 And in 2012: "The Untold Story Of How Clinton's Budget Destroyed The American Economy" http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-budget-destroyed-the-economy-2012-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-bu...
    - throwaway7656 9y ago
      first article was written in 2000. it talks about projections (!) of 2001 budget.
      - ASalazarMX 9y ago
        Thanks, messed the years. Corrected.

ASalazarMX 9y ago

> I hope we become better so we can emerge as the role model that we once were. USA is still a role model on many areas: cultural, economic, military, etc. It was never a moral role model, although that didn't deter the government of boasting about it anyway.

throwaway7656 9y ago
Economic role model? Are you even serious? US debt on 6th of March 2000 was 5.7 trillions. [0] Today it is 20.8 trillions. And what USA has to show for the mere 15 trillions of debt? Affordable healthcare? Free education? Absence of homeless population? Shiny new infrastructure? Thousands of kilometers of speed-rails connecting major cities? Role model. You guys are delusional. Let me tell you something like non-american. The whole world looks at you with sheer amusement. [0] https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current PS: The only economic achievement I can list is that US elites have managed to alienate with their policies half of the country, so that half decided to give country a try with some real estate tycoon who enjoys to bang pornstars in his free time. Quite an achievement indeed. 15 trillions well spent.
- ASalazarMX 9y ago
  And to think this article was written in 2000: "Clinton Forecasts Debt-Free Nation" http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94572 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94572 And in 2012: "The Untold Story Of How Clinton's Budget Destroyed The American Economy" http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-budget-destroyed-the-economy-2012-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-bu...
  - throwaway7656 9y ago
    first article was written in 2000. it talks about projections (!) of 2001 budget.
    - ASalazarMX 9y ago
      Thanks, messed the years. Corrected.