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I disagree. 5 mins of work to install a new programming language impacts so much of what you do with that language and how you would deploy it in production env

I disagree. 5 mins of work to install a new programming language impacts so much of what you do with that language and how you would deploy it in production environment. As the GP says - Python 3 is the future. By this logic, we should be using IE on Windows.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> By this logic, we should be using IE on Windows But, if you know nothing about the web and are just learning, and you've got a Windows machine, sure, use IE (or Edge, if it's Windows 10.) Just like if you are starting from zero programming, and self-teaching, sure, use whatever is available in the base install of your OS.
JustSomeNobody 9y ago
5 minutes for you is not 5 minutes for someone new.
- fermienrico 9y ago
  Could you please explain why? I am curious what are some of the roadblocks in installing Python 3 for a newbie?
  - CJefferson 9y ago
    Last time I tried to install python3 and pip on a Mac without root, I tried following 2 guides from the internet, both gave weird errors, and I gave up. My "give up" was just install as root, system wide, but that's only because I have root access to my machine.
cryptoz 9y ago
> and how you would deploy it in production environment We're talking about learning a new language, not deploying to production. > By this logic, we should be using IE on Windows. No, that's not what anybody said. This is about learning languages, not even using them. Using a language is different from learning a language in so many ways they aren't even comparable. Millions of people could be learning a language for millions of reasons. Simple portability is useful - knowing a language that is preinstalled on a huge portion of computers worldwide has massive advantages for a huge number of people who are learning new languages today. Dismissing the values that others might place in how they learn a language is being close-minded. There are lots of reasons to learn to program, and learning based on the language available to you first and most readily is certainly a reasonable approach.

dragonwriter 9y ago

> By this logic, we should be using IE on Windows But, if you know nothing about the web and are just learning, and you've got a Windows machine, sure, use IE (or Edge, if it's Windows 10.) Just like if you are starting from zero programming, and self-teaching, sure, use whatever is available in the base install of your OS.

JustSomeNobody 9y ago

5 minutes for you is not 5 minutes for someone new.

fermienrico 9y ago
Could you please explain why? I am curious what are some of the roadblocks in installing Python 3 for a newbie?
- CJefferson 9y ago
  Last time I tried to install python3 and pip on a Mac without root, I tried following 2 guides from the internet, both gave weird errors, and I gave up. My "give up" was just install as root, system wide, but that's only because I have root access to my machine.

cryptoz 9y ago

> and how you would deploy it in production environment We're talking about learning a new language, not deploying to production. > By this logic, we should be using IE on Windows. No, that's not what anybody said. This is about learning languages, not even using them. Using a language is different from learning a language in so many ways they aren't even comparable. Millions of people could be learning a language for millions of reasons. Simple portability is useful - knowing a language that is preinstalled on a huge portion of computers worldwide has massive advantages for a huge number of people who are learning new languages today. Dismissing the values that others might place in how they learn a language is being close-minded. There are lots of reasons to learn to program, and learning based on the language available to you first and most readily is certainly a reasonable approach.