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Did you read the article? The details of the bottle lines up with the ship captain's logs. It would have been quite elaborate hoax to correctly reference the lo
by s0rce 9y ago
Did you read the article? The details of the bottle lines up with the ship captain's logs. It would have been quite elaborate hoax to correctly reference the logs, find a vintage bottle, paper and printing press and forge the handwriting... not saying it isn't possible but the museum staff seemed skeptical and were convinced by the evidence.
- kazinator 9y agoThat's assuming the bottle, paper, and museum staff even exist. From where I'm sitting, this is just pixels and text. > It would have been quite elaborate hoax to correctly reference the logs, find a vintage bottle, paper and printing press and forge the handwriting. Ah, from that point of view it seems like a lot of effort. But suppose someone already happens to have the vintage bottle in their possession, from a long time ago. Then they happen to learn about this ship and its logs. "Hey, I have a bottle from around that time, ...". All sorts of situations and combinations occur in the world without a lot of effort, due to things just falling in place. Then they look like they would require effort if viewed from the point of view of having been contrived. It's similar reasoning to the greater ease of finding two documents with a colliding message digest hash, compared to finding a colliding document for a given document. Sure, the given situation is hard to contrive, but it's one of an infinity of possible hoaxes, and there are many people in the world with many experiences and ideas and things in their possession and so on.
- kyle-rb 9y agoYeah. Has anyone really ever seen this "Australia" in person?
- kazinator 9y agoSo, connect the dots for me: everything reported against Australia is necessarily as real as Australia itself? Or where are you headed with this?
- kyle-rb 9y agoWell, I'm not opposed to the idea of Australia in general. It's really just some of the fantastical-sounding stuff you hear. Like do you really believe that there exists an island nation founded by British convicts which once lost a war against emus and is home to egg-laying mammals?
- orthecreedence 9y agoI've personally not been there, so I remain skeptical. And if I did go to "Australia" who's to say the plane wouldn't just fly in loops for 6 hours and land outside Las Vegas in an elaborately constructed set made to look like this fabled land of giant spiders and marsupials? Seems the people who believe in Australia are the same ones who would blindly accept that the earth is round...
- toomanybeersies 9y agoYou have me questioning my reality now.
- gpvos 9y agoThis is the kind of nihilistic thinking that has given rise to the likes of Trump et al. But anyway, here's the press release from today's continuation of the Deutsche Seewarte: http://www.bsh.de/de/Das_BSH/Presse/Pressearchiv/Pressemitteilungen2018/Pressemitteilung03-2018.jsp http://www.bsh.de/de/Das_BSH/Presse/Pressearchiv/Pressemitte... .
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- a_t48 9y agoAre you real or just a chatbot?
- ihsw2 9y agoHow can one truly be sure? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
- TheGrassyKnoll 9y agoI post on HN, therefore I am.
- mythrwy 9y agoWhat you are suggesting is possible. But IMOP just not very likely. Where's the motive? Is the potential reward worth the work?
- kazinator 9y agoMaybe the bottle had been sterilized the interior of the bottle with arsenic or something of that sort? In spite of the ingress of moisture, no mould or bacterium took hold.