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I think you ruined your point at the end there by implying this attitude is unique to those that are religious. It definitely isn't and the "fuck poor" sentimen

I think you ruined your point at the end there by implying this attitude is unique to those that are religious. It definitely isn't and the "fuck poor" sentiment runs deep throughout every part of western culture.

openasocket 9y ago
The sentiment is hardly unique to western culture either. Off the top of my head the Hindu Caste System seems like a pretty good example of a system that excuses the mistreatment of the poor.
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- newfoundglory 9y ago
  I think the difference is that the caste system relies on the poor being there, it doesn't imagine that they should all disappear.
aryehof 9y ago
Throughout "western culture"? No, I contend that such a sentiment is particularly prevalent in the USA. Countries in Europe, Canada and Australia among others, do not share such a view.
- felipelemos 9y ago
  Just to remember that we have a whole lot of countries in America that are not any of those you cited, and they all share western culture too.
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lisper 9y ago
Yes, that's true. But there really is a shocking percentage of Americans who really do believe that no long term thinking is needed because the Second Coming is imminent.
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protoplant 9y ago
When I think of charity in my city, I have soup kitchen, run by church, adult day care run by another church, drug clinic run by church, habitat humanity branch, another church, probably a lot I am missing since I'm not a churchy person. I think there are some nonsecular like Kiwanis and Lions also. This study shows religious tend to donate more to charity. https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Religious-Americans-Give-More/153973 https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Religious-Americans-Giv... It turns out jerks are jerks, and the church bashing is unwarranted here.
romwell 9y ago
>I think you ruined your point at the end there by implying this attitude is unique to those that are religious. /s/Jesus/trickle down I think that fixes it
blacksmith_tb 9y ago
The connection is of course famously the theme of Max Weber's Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism[1], so it might be more accurate to say the origin of the attitude was religious, but it has now become more widespread. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism#Summary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_S...

openasocket 9y ago

The sentiment is hardly unique to western culture either. Off the top of my head the Hindu Caste System seems like a pretty good example of a system that excuses the mistreatment of the poor.

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newfoundglory 9y ago
I think the difference is that the caste system relies on the poor being there, it doesn't imagine that they should all disappear.

aryehof 9y ago

Throughout "western culture"? No, I contend that such a sentiment is particularly prevalent in the USA. Countries in Europe, Canada and Australia among others, do not share such a view.

felipelemos 9y ago
Just to remember that we have a whole lot of countries in America that are not any of those you cited, and they all share western culture too.
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lisper 9y ago

Yes, that's true. But there really is a shocking percentage of Americans who really do believe that no long term thinking is needed because the Second Coming is imminent.

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protoplant 9y ago

When I think of charity in my city, I have soup kitchen, run by church, adult day care run by another church, drug clinic run by church, habitat humanity branch, another church, probably a lot I am missing since I'm not a churchy person. I think there are some nonsecular like Kiwanis and Lions also. This study shows religious tend to donate more to charity. https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Religious-Americans-Give-More/153973 https://www.philanthropy.com/article/Religious-Americans-Giv... It turns out jerks are jerks, and the church bashing is unwarranted here.

romwell 9y ago

>I think you ruined your point at the end there by implying this attitude is unique to those that are religious. /s/Jesus/trickle down I think that fixes it

blacksmith_tb 9y ago

The connection is of course famously the theme of Max Weber's Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism[1], so it might be more accurate to say the origin of the attitude was religious, but it has now become more widespread. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism#Summary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_S...