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There is a really great article from New Yorker last year that I'd recommend: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/20/can-carbon-dioxide-removal-save-the-

by gustaf 9y ago

There is a really great article from New Yorker last year that I'd recommend: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/20/can-carbon-dioxide-removal-save-the-world https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/20/can-carbon-dio... Carbon removal technologies are not going to bring us another ice-age. We need to remove hundreds of billions of tons of Carbon from the atmosphere in order to avoid catastrophic global warming. That is the major risk today and it's very apparent. Problem is that carbon removal technologies aren't good enough or cheap enough to do that.

pdonis 9y ago
> We need to remove hundreds of billions of tons of Carbon from the atmosphere in order to avoid catastrophic global warming. Only if you believe the predictions of the models used by the IPCC, which have already been falsified by the data. CO2 has been rising according to the most pessimistic "business as usual" model scenario, but actual warming has been less than that predicted by the most optimistic "massive reductions in CO2 have already happened" scenario. This is the huge elephant in the room that is never mentioned by climate change alarmists.
- gustaf 9y ago
  There is massive consensus around IPCC's conclusions within the scientific community. The topic of the discussion here is not if climate change is real or not. You should find another site to discuss that.
  - pdonis 9y ago
    > There is massive consensus around IPCC's conclusions within the scientific community. So what? Science doesn't work by consensus, it works by making predictions that match reality. If the predictions don't match reality, all the consensus in the world doesn't make good science. > The topic of the discussion here is not if climate change is real or not. I'll leave that to the moderators to decide. One of the items in the RFS was asking for research on taking CO2 out of the atmosphere. It seems appropriate to ask whether doing that is really worth spending time and energy on when we have so many other pressing issues that need attention.

by gustaf 9y ago

pdonis 9y ago

> We need to remove hundreds of billions of tons of Carbon from the atmosphere in order to avoid catastrophic global warming. Only if you believe the predictions of the models used by the IPCC, which have already been falsified by the data. CO2 has been rising according to the most pessimistic "business as usual" model scenario, but actual warming has been less than that predicted by the most optimistic "massive reductions in CO2 have already happened" scenario. This is the huge elephant in the room that is never mentioned by climate change alarmists.

gustaf 9y ago
There is massive consensus around IPCC's conclusions within the scientific community. The topic of the discussion here is not if climate change is real or not. You should find another site to discuss that.
- pdonis 9y ago
  > There is massive consensus around IPCC's conclusions within the scientific community. So what? Science doesn't work by consensus, it works by making predictions that match reality. If the predictions don't match reality, all the consensus in the world doesn't make good science. > The topic of the discussion here is not if climate change is real or not. I'll leave that to the moderators to decide. One of the items in the RFS was asking for research on taking CO2 out of the atmosphere. It seems appropriate to ask whether doing that is really worth spending time and energy on when we have so many other pressing issues that need attention.