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I assume these self-driving trucks still have a human driver in them. So, which exact parts are self-driving? Is it like Tesla's autopilot where it does lane fo

I assume these self-driving trucks still have a human driver in them. So, which exact parts are self-driving? Is it like Tesla's autopilot where it does lane following, cruise control and keeping the distance on highways?

petra 9y ago
It's not self driving. But it may be One of the first places that get paid real money(lets say UBER'S commission) for testing self-driving.
olyjohn 9y ago
It's just adaptive cruise and lane keeping. Just like trucks already have now. The headlines to attract clicks on these are so infuriating...
dsfyu404ed 9y ago
> So, which exact parts are self-driving? Just enough of it that they can skirt the DOT hour rules about hours worked while still blaming the driver for any crashes or tickets would be my guess. That's the obvious lowest hanging fruit as far as trucking is concerned. If you can automate enough of the long haul grind that the driver could possibly be sleeping then you have a massive competitive advantage over everyone else. If you don't automate enough to be able to skirt the DOT time rules there's not much of a competitive advantage.
- icebraining 9y ago
  I don't think you can skirt them. Time on-duty counts against their daily limit even if they're not driving (the example given in an official guide is a trucker taking a bus to get to the truck), so they must still get a proper rest afterwards. So Uber can't count the "not driving but watching the road" as time off.
  - dsfyu404ed 9y ago
    They're not going to be on duty. They're going to be sleeping in the sleeper, on paper at least.
    - icebraining 9y ago
      And how will they blame a crash on the driver, when the paper say s/he was sleeping?
- madeofpalk 9y ago
  > Just enough of it that they can skirt the DOT hour rules Source?
  - knieveltech 9y ago
    Source: plausible extrapolation based on Uber's storied history of violating labor laws to one extent or another in just about every market they've entered.
    - madeofpalk 9y ago
      Come on, I'm not a fan of Uber and their shady history, but you can't just invent claims out of thin air based on your feelings.
      - knieveltech 9y ago
        What feelings? Do we seriously need to review Uber's conduct? We over here pretending their corporate culture has shifted to something approximating ethical behavior now?
        madeofpalk 9y ago
        No, I'm not trying to excuse Uber or say that they're some amazing benevolent company. All I'm saying that I think, if you're going to make a claim like above it at least comes with a source or something relevant to the claim itself to point at as proof. But look, if that's too much to ask for on Hacker News then fine.
        askafriend 9y ago
        I think you were right to call him/her out. Comments like that have no place here. Level headed conversation with references and sources if possible are what I come here for and I think what the community expects. The other stuff can stay on Reddit.
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petra 9y ago

It's not self driving. But it may be One of the first places that get paid real money(lets say UBER'S commission) for testing self-driving.

olyjohn 9y ago

It's just adaptive cruise and lane keeping. Just like trucks already have now. The headlines to attract clicks on these are so infuriating...

dsfyu404ed 9y ago

> So, which exact parts are self-driving? Just enough of it that they can skirt the DOT hour rules about hours worked while still blaming the driver for any crashes or tickets would be my guess. That's the obvious lowest hanging fruit as far as trucking is concerned. If you can automate enough of the long haul grind that the driver could possibly be sleeping then you have a massive competitive advantage over everyone else. If you don't automate enough to be able to skirt the DOT time rules there's not much of a competitive advantage.

icebraining 9y ago
I don't think you can skirt them. Time on-duty counts against their daily limit even if they're not driving (the example given in an official guide is a trucker taking a bus to get to the truck), so they must still get a proper rest afterwards. So Uber can't count the "not driving but watching the road" as time off.
- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  They're not going to be on duty. They're going to be sleeping in the sleeper, on paper at least.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    And how will they blame a crash on the driver, when the paper say s/he was sleeping?
madeofpalk 9y ago
> Just enough of it that they can skirt the DOT hour rules Source?
- knieveltech 9y ago
  Source: plausible extrapolation based on Uber's storied history of violating labor laws to one extent or another in just about every market they've entered.
  - madeofpalk 9y ago
    Come on, I'm not a fan of Uber and their shady history, but you can't just invent claims out of thin air based on your feelings.
    - knieveltech 9y ago
      What feelings? Do we seriously need to review Uber's conduct? We over here pretending their corporate culture has shifted to something approximating ethical behavior now?
      - madeofpalk 9y ago
        No, I'm not trying to excuse Uber or say that they're some amazing benevolent company. All I'm saying that I think, if you're going to make a claim like above it at least comes with a source or something relevant to the claim itself to point at as proof. But look, if that's too much to ask for on Hacker News then fine.
        askafriend 9y ago
        I think you were right to call him/her out. Comments like that have no place here. Level headed conversation with references and sources if possible are what I come here for and I think what the community expects. The other stuff can stay on Reddit.
    - deleted 9y ago