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I think that all the people that says that its cool but unpractical are focusing too much on the 3d aspect of croquet. The thing you should really think is tha

by chudi 9y ago

I think that all the people that says that its cool but unpractical are focusing too much on the 3d aspect of croquet. The thing you should really think is that everything is done via objects, so instead of you use json as a sort of rpc, you can just get all the objects trough your browser, instead of screen sharing your computer, you can just share a sheet of a spreadsheet, a game or your file system, instead of building these thin clients on the browser, you can just share your software trough a system like this.

yoz-y 9y ago
What does it mean "objects" in practice? JSON is basically objects but serialized. X can also kind of share a window through the network, but as it is designed to do so, it fails on many other levels.
- chudi 9y ago
  Think object as if it cant draw itself, lets say you have a spreadsheet object that it can draw it self in some window manager so you are updating it with some method calls, etc and you want to share trough the network, what is the difference between serializing that object over the wire and drawing it in your screen than use some sort of json to wire the data and then recreate with a thin client the spreadsheet in your browser? I mean the difference is subtle, you can say why we dont have the same draw engine and use json yo carry the data over the network? You will have to solve syncing, etc, but if you instead use something like a croquet (I'm assuming here, I don't have experience with that system) you are sharing the object, the methods the full object, not just a text representation of it.
  - yoz-y 9y ago
    Doesn't this mean executing an arbitrary code on another person's computer? You could send a javascript object over network rather than some json data and then glue it with the code on the client side too (this is what google does/did with the search suggestions at some point).
    - chudi 9y ago
      yes, its a weakness that they discuss at the wiki http://wiki.c2.com/?OpenCroquet http://wiki.c2.com/?OpenCroquet

by chudi 9y ago

yoz-y 9y ago

What does it mean "objects" in practice? JSON is basically objects but serialized. X can also kind of share a window through the network, but as it is designed to do so, it fails on many other levels.

chudi 9y ago
Think object as if it cant draw itself, lets say you have a spreadsheet object that it can draw it self in some window manager so you are updating it with some method calls, etc and you want to share trough the network, what is the difference between serializing that object over the wire and drawing it in your screen than use some sort of json to wire the data and then recreate with a thin client the spreadsheet in your browser? I mean the difference is subtle, you can say why we dont have the same draw engine and use json yo carry the data over the network? You will have to solve syncing, etc, but if you instead use something like a croquet (I'm assuming here, I don't have experience with that system) you are sharing the object, the methods the full object, not just a text representation of it.
- yoz-y 9y ago
  Doesn't this mean executing an arbitrary code on another person's computer? You could send a javascript object over network rather than some json data and then glue it with the code on the client side too (this is what google does/did with the search suggestions at some point).
  - chudi 9y ago
    yes, its a weakness that they discuss at the wiki http://wiki.c2.com/?OpenCroquet http://wiki.c2.com/?OpenCroquet